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    Quote Originally Posted by Impact View Post
    Finally, some one who understands whats wromg
    You spelled wrong wrong. Nothing is wrong with 2H Sword Bear vs Bow Burd. I mean can we plz be serious. The burd should win...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoopeo View Post
    Try using 2H sword against a mage in endgame. Stomp her to wall with 9 combo and she already lost 800 mana/hp and she cant hit you (dodge all) Throw out slashes and crit all with total of 2500 damage if the mage is not dead, she is a hacker.
    Scythe bear does almost same insane damage but is also unkillable and no need to rely on dodges like a bird.
    Send me a vid of that happening
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    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    You spelled wrong wrong. Nothing is wrong with 2H Sword Bear vs Bow Burd. I mean can plz be serious. The burd should win...
    Im talking more bout the 200 dmg auto


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    Quote Originally Posted by Impact View Post
    Im talking more bout the 200 dmg auto


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    I dont have 77 bear but They buff up to something like 580 damage so just imagine that damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoopeo View Post
    I dont have 77 bear but They buff up to something like 580 damage so just imagine that damage
    418-423 dmg buffed, 528 dps and i have 3pc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booked View Post
    418-423 dmg buffed, 528 dps and i have 3pc
    2H sword alone gives 430-440

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoopeo View Post
    2H sword alone gives 430-440
    Maybe more, but the lack of armor and dodge makes it die with almost 3-4 hits, unless you are really fast to kill your opponent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booked View Post
    Maybe more, but the lack of armor and dodge makes it die with almost 3-4 hits, unless you are really fast to kill your opponent.
    Yes but opponent dies from 2 hits. Plus 2H set still has some good dodge like 34 base or more. And armor is like 250.

    If you are familiar with birds squishiness you could do well with 2H bear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoopeo View Post
    Yes but opponent dies from 2 hits. Plus 2H set still has some good dodge like 34 base or more. And armor is like 250.

    If you are familiar with birds squishiness you could do well with 2H bear
    Scenario : Elite Swift Bow Bird vs. Elite Savage (2H)Sword Bear (L76)

    Bird uses repulse. Bear misses beckon. Bird hits blind. Bear misses hs. Bird hits break. Bear runs. Bird uses roots. Bear misses beckon. Bird uses shatter. Bear misses stomp. Bird uses blast(activates "Cruel Blast" combo). Bird kills bear with full health.


    That's the real scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    Scenario : Elite Swift Bow Bird vs. Elite Savage (2H)Sword Bear (L76)

    Bird uses repulse. Bear misses beckon. Bird hits blind. Bear misses hs. Bird hits break. Bear runs. Bird uses roots. Bear misses beckon. Bird uses shatter. Bear misses stomp. Bird uses blast(activates "Cruel Blast" combo). Bird kills bear with full health.


    That's the real scenario.
    Or, more likely with same scenario:

    Bear dodges repulse and blind, hits beckon with 320 crit damage. Bear gets hit by root and autoattack kills bird with 398critical damage.

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    I would love to know what was going through the devs' heads every time they statted the str gear for the new caps, like did they not realise the damage they were applying was too much? It's just ridiculous that beckon stomp can insta a bird and mage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoopeo View Post
    Or, more likely with same scenario:

    Bear dodges repulse and blind, hits beckon with 320 crit damage. Bear gets hit by root and autoattack kills bird with 398critical damage.
    That...... has never happened to me, especially vs a 2h bear
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    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    That...... has never happened to me, especially vs a 2h bear
    Then you sir, are a haxor. If you play ten rounds vs a bear, he will most likely hit beckon, and dodge blind (and anything else you can throw at him) 8/10 rounds, while at the same time landing damage he simply should not be able to, it should be a tank class with small damage, and now look.

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    I don't know why think that bear is like a god or something like it can't be beated, you just have to know your range, have a decent build and gear and then you can kill them with or without ring, i talk like it as a bird, bear and currently training for a mage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anahadaz View Post
    Then you sir, are a haxor. If you play ten rounds vs a bear, he will most likely hit beckon, and dodge blind (and anything else you can throw at him) 8/10 rounds, while at the same time landing damage he simply should not be able to, it should be a tank class with small damage, and now look.
    i'm not saying that bears don't unload a ton of damage for a tank class. but i am saying that 2H Bears are easy to beat... just kite them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booked View Post
    currently training for a mage.
    btw at endgame dex/int mages are pretty gud...
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    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    btw at endgame dex/int mages are pretty gud...
    I'm doing pure int mage :3 atm is 76 but still training with fiery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoopeo View Post
    Or, more likely with same scenario:

    Bear dodges repulse and blind, hits beckon with 320 crit damage. Bear gets hit by root and autoattack kills bird with 398critical damage.
    Crit beckon doesn't do 60% of a birds health, and sure as hell doesn't auto 380 dmg. Stop pulling numbers out your ***

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    So what I understood from all this is that if strength set dodge is less then PvP will be balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trenton View Post
    Crit beckon doesn't do 60% of a birds health, and sure as hell doesn't auto 380 dmg. Stop pulling numbers out your ***
    I tried pure dex bird for 1hour two days ago. Got killed so many times by beckon auto of dex bear.
    Now there are these new dagger bears and those daggers do 220crits at 0.4 speed. Another "Tank class" problem. Buff makes daggers damage insane

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