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    Question Gem wand question?

    Would anyone know any detals or specifics about the differences in the three types of gem wands other than minor dps and appearance without me having to spend a couple mil gold to try and find out? Such as stone vs shard vs star?

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    Gem Shard is a fire wand with a burn proc
    Gemstone is a dark wand with a weakness proc
    Gem Star is a lightning wand with the highest damage but no proc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royce View Post
    Gem Shard is a fire wand with a burn proc
    Gemstone is a dark wand with a weakness proc
    Gem Star is a lightning wand with the highest damage but no proc
    Thanks Royce,

    Are any of the procs AOE, are the skill bonuses the same, any crafting implications for one vs other or three diff 55 recipes?

    And just what I am sure is another meaningless compliment, but this may be my first post but I have been a lurker here for a long time so my thanks for the answers to countless questions you didn't know I was even asking...

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    Skill damage is the same for the Star and Stone wands and only a bit lower with the shard. All three can be crafted into enchanted wands, so it's really just a matter of which type you prefer
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    Thanks again Royce,

    This is your world and I am just living in it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanced View Post
    Thanks again Royce,

    This is your world and I am just living in it..
    Lmao
    Also I just looked at these again and apparently the star and stone wands have the same average damage (stone has higher max but lower min). Coulda sworn the star had higher damage when they first came out, but not currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royce View Post
    Lmao
    Also I just looked at these again and apparently the star and stone wands have the same average damage (stone has higher max but lower min). Coulda sworn the star had higher damage when they first came out, but not currently.
    Yeah, I had just noticed that as well but was looking at 53's... for some reason I thought your original comment was correct as well but maybe about the 51's when I first looked at them... *shrugs* I will probably end up with a couple anyway for different situations... either the suicide bomber build or the mother theresa...

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    I don't know why it didn't dawn on me to ask this but does the weakness proc stack?

    Thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanced View Post
    I don't know why it didn't dawn on me to ask this but does the weakness proc stack?

    Thanks...
    Yes, up to a point.
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    Royce - do you think that any of the wands are worth getting over shadow glow stick (Yanis's pic)? Right now, I'm looking at the Mega Mage Level 55 Gemstone Wand, but am very reluctant to buy because its very expensive (400k+) and prices are still falling. Currently, I'm all shadow with a ring (here).

    Stats for gemstone (from Yanis):
    Req: Level 55, 173 Int 112-158 Damage, 1.0 Speed, 12 Int, 8 M/s, 10 Armor

    Glow Stick of Shadows
    Req: Level 50, 157 Int 97-142 Damage, 1.0 Speed, 12 Int, 5% Hit, 4% Crit, 5 H/s, 5 M/s, 7 Armor

    My other fear is that the devs could release some uber level 56 only weapon. In one month, most people who are level 55 right now are going to be level 56.



    Benefits I can see:
    - Better actual damage
    - Better spell damage
    - Slightly better armor
    - Weakness proc

    Drawbacks:
    - Loss of critical hits and hit percentage
    - No health regen

    Also, how potent is the weakness effect? Thanks in advance.
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    IMO the gemstone wand is a pretty big upgrade from the glow stick. You lose a bit of Crit (the hit% hardly matters since as a pure int mage you will still be around or over 100%). You gain mana regen (health regen is the absolute last stat a mage should look at), and you get better damage and significantly higher skill damage. The gemstone wand also carries a weakness proc. The gem star wand carries all the same advantages except, being a lightning wand like the glow stick, lacks the weakness proc (and seems to have a speedier projectile which could actually help your DPS a bit). Whether the upgrade is worth the current prices is up to the individual, but prices will certainly decrease over time.
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    Thanks again. If I find a good price, part of me is tempted to buy.

    I'm still worried though that it is inevitable that there will be a new set of weapons. When I first joined, void, rift, and cosmos were the sets to have. Then new sets came out with the Shadow Caves. I assume that you've been here for a long time now - how long do you think before the devs will release something based on historical precedent? Every month?

    Some of the more senior players talk of when they had to make compromises between gear like thoth, isis, osiris, and horus when the level cap was 45.
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    Well I'm not sure we'll see elite gear any time soon, though there could very well be more gear added. I suspect it will more likely just offer alternative types of stats and not necessarily be "better". In fact it's kind of hard to think of a gear bonus better than what mega mage has, max damage, M/s and armor. Anyway, I think the current gear will likely be the top stuff for a while, but there's no way to really know anymore. It used to be that you could predict this stuff better but with the last couple campaigns the devs have has a tendency to break from their previous patterns, so it's just hard to say for sure.
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    All right - illuminating insights. I guess I will be buying then.

    If you're interested, a level 55 gemshard wand can be had for 140k, a level 55 gem star wand for 400k, and a level 55 gemstone wand for 450k. It's not that accumulating cash is hard or anything, it's just that levelling to 56 is a bigger priority. I suppose the big disparity in price right now is due to the rarity of the items.

    Part of me is tempted to just buy the gemshard, eat a gold loss (when the price inevitably falls - 140k isn't an unreasonable price) and then just buy the gemstone when it is cheaper.

    Edit: Someone has just posted a gem star for 390k. Lol.

    I also don't think that it's worth crafting any of the mage equipment right now.

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    I started off with a level 51 mega mage gem shard and it was a nice wand, lower weapon damage than the stone or star, but with a burn proc for a bit of additional damage. I moved to the level 43 Star wand when I got the drop, and definitely noticed the increased damage from it, but the shard is definitely a better deal right now. And yes do not craft your mega mage gear unless you have an Int bear
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    Bought the gem shard wand for 140k. Spell damage-wise, it's only slightly better than the glow stick; +7 on average. Still, every bit counts. I assume you mean the 53 star wand.

    I guess the only thing to do at this point is to wait for the gemstone wand to be a more reasonable price.

    Edit: It was the 55 shard I bought and I'm waiting for a 55 gemstone wand.
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    Yeah the star wand and stone wand have identical damage and give identical skill damage. The shard wand is lower but still a bit better than the glow stick. Don't forget you do have the burn proc though, so it's a nice ranged combo with frostbite if you use it.
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    temporarily redirecting this topic.. lighting from the spell lowers your armor but the wand does not? Just checking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otukura View Post
    temporarily redirecting this topic.. lighting from the spell lowers your armor but the wand does not? Just checking...
    Yeah lightning the skill has a small armor and damage debuff actually, but no lightning weapons I have ever tested have had any proc at all.
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    I agree with Royce,

    I have played a good bit with the four wands in question... hands down the gems are better than glowstick for skill bonus alone...

    IMHO... The shard is the better deal... dmg decrease is more than made up with the proc to the point I think I was out dps the star... the stone seems to be the cadillac right now due partly to the rarity combined with marginally better numbers and the proc...

    I have settled on the stone wand and just go to the blast staff if I need a little more boom... common knowledge the aoe is nice for street sweeping and even higher skill bonus to boot...

    And that is just my worthless virtual 2 gold on the matter....

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