Are bears op or underpowered?

[Waug]

I think this is the time we all should admit a truth and I.e pallies/bears/str are not op at all rather a bit underpowered at least sts know this truth and they also know if they nerf str sets/buff non str sets, 90% of the endgame community is gonna rage hard, but that also reveal a good side of it, instead of being underpowered side, 90% of the community choose to stick on it.

[Meggadon]

nope pally is the overpowered class, something with a heal like a support class and based in INT but equiping STR sets and using DEX stats and its could tank more than real tank class and got a good chance against every class. Even bear have a damage buff, bear dont have something to clear u from debuff like 4 other class (CMIIW). can another class be that good without using their own based stat like bird (Dex) using int weapon and str stats? Bear(str) using dex weapon and int stat? and also if bear really that op why lag, joepally,floridalife, skyofsummer, blitz,fearonasking name more popular than all those anyonymous beckon stomper u alwys said. i think they should NERF STR set dodge base but ADD dodge buff in taunt and evade so there are no godly mode class anymore and maybe add free from like negative effct in resote.

This idea I like. Str was meant to tank, and bears were meant to tank. If you reduced dodge for savage and lust set and increased dodge for bears, there won't be much pallys, warbirds. This will have a big impact!

[Rescind]

nope pally is the overpowered class, something with a heal like a support class and based in INT but equiping STR sets and using DEX stats and its could tank more than real tank class and got a good chance against every class. Even bear have a damage buff, bear dont have something to clear u from debuff like 4 other class (CMIIW). can another class be that good without using their own based stat like bird (Dex) using int weapon and str stats? Bear(str) using dex weapon and int stat? and also if bear really that op why lag, joepally,floridalife, skyofsummer, blitz,fearonasking name more popular than all those anyonymous beckon stomper u alwys said. i think they should NERF STR set dodge base but ADD dodge buff in taunt and evade so there are no godly mode class anymore and maybe add free from like negative effct in resote.

Since when did fox and bird have a skill that clears a debuff? Birds have avian to get out of STUNS. Foxes have EVASION for ONE chance to get out of a stun. Bears have STOMP to get out of roots/ice

[iRandom]

woawoa. I said KEEP CALM.

[bearuang]

Since when did fox and bird have a skill that clears a debuff? Birds have avian to get out of STUNS. Foxes have EVASION for ONE chance to get out of a stun. Bears have STOMP to get out of roots/ice

thanks for corrections, added cmiiw before too . edited

[iRandom]

nope pally is the overpowered class, something with a heal like a support class and based in INT but equiping STR sets and using DEX stats and its could tank more than real tank class and got a good chance against every class. can another class be that good without using their own based stat like bird (Dex) using int weapon and str stats? Bear(str) using dex weapon and int stat? and also if bear really that op why lag, joepally,floridalife, skyofsummer, blitz,fearonasking name more popular than all those anyonymous beckon stomper u alwys said. i think they should NERF STR set dodge base but ADD dodge buff in taunt and evade so there are no godly mode class anymore and maybe add free from like negative effct in resote.

Only rhinos and palsy can free from debuff unless rebuff is like CRQUSHING BLOW which can't be healed .
Add more dodge to bears? It is SO like a person to favor the class they play over others. Unlike bears foxes have one chance to free themselves from stuns EVERY 15 SECONDS. RHINOS HAVE 4 ACTUAL ATTAKING SKILLS! Bears can debuff 70+ DAMAGE AND 22+ dodge! Cause hit percent to drop from 100 to 40! 3(or4) attacks that stun! 2 dodge buffs, an armor buff, and a damage buff. (Ok rhino has more buffs) bears r meant to tank not unleash 400+ damage ( with 9 rage and a elite bow? Beckon stomp SMS is basically gf! In this case bf) nerfing ENDGAME STR SET DODGE IS A GREAT IDEA. BUT THEN BEARS WILL MOST LIKELY USE A DEX FOR MORE DAMAGE AND HIT! I've already seen (besides opest) swift bow bears ezily take down str bears! I think dolloway's idea to fix the GNo2013 should be implemented in the game!

[bearuang]

Only rhinos and palsy can free from debuff unless rebuff is like CRQUSHING BLOW which can't be healed .
Add more dodge to bears? It is SO like a person to favor the class they play over others. Unlike bears foxes have one chance to free themselves from stuns EVERY 15 SECONDS. RHINOS HAVE 4 ACTUAL ATTAKING SKILLS! Bears can debuff 70+ DAMAGE AND 22+ dodge! Cause hit percent to drop from 100 to 40! 3(or4) attacks that stun! 2 dodge buffs, an armor buff, and a damage buff. (Ok rhino has more buffs) bears r meant to tank not unleash 400+ damage ( with 9 rage and a elite bow? Beckon stomp SMS is basically gf! In this case bf) nerfing ENDGAME STR SET DODGE IS A GREAT IDEA. BUT THEN BEARS WILL MOST LIKELY USE A DEX FOR MORE DAMAGE AND HIT! I've already seen (besides opest) swift bow bears ezily take down str bears! I think dolloway's idea to fix the GNo2013 should be implemented in the game!

But nerfing the base dodge give mage more chance to hit too cause when they ran out of buff and debuff bear dodge and hit, it can push their dodge stats to bottom. Swift bear bow its powerfu against str bear but we can still beat it if u nuke faster and bring them to the wall even wirh savage bear also since lustrous introduced dagger bear can beat it also its pretty squishy against int mage, so do pally can ice fire it to the spawn

[iRandom]

I have edited it before u replied and there was an description in reasom for editing, pls read carefully

read the whole of my post pls

[Marika1]

nope pally is the overpowered class, something with a heal like a support class and based in INT but equiping STR sets and using DEX stats and its could tank more than real tank class and got a good chance against every class. can another class be that good without using their own based stat like bird (Dex) using int weapon and str stats? Bear(str) using dex weapon and int stat? and also if bear really that op why lag, joepally,floridalife, skyofsummer, blitz,fearonasking name more popular than all those anyonymous beckon stomper u alwys said. i think they should NERF STR set dodge base but ADD dodge buff in taunt and evade so there are no godly mode class anymore and maybe add free from like negative effct in resote.

All the pallies you named here have the 3pc ring. Maybe u seen them beat savage no ring bears or something and thought to yourself pally is op. Can you name any good pallies that do not have 3pc ring? Because ive seen savage no ring bears destroy lust 3pc pallies in pvp. Is the pally still op? FYI since i started pvp, i have never seen a savage no ring pally beat a savage no ring bear FT10. Ever. Do you know of any?

[bearuang]

All the pallies you named here have the 3pc ring. Maybe u seen them beat savage no ring bears or something and thought to yourself pally is op. Can you name any good pallies that do not have 3pc ring? Because ive seen savage no ring bears destroy lust 3pc pallies in pvp. Is the pally still op? FYI since i started pvp, i have never seen a savage no ring pally beat a savage no ring bear FT10. Ever. Do you know of any?

omg maybe bear that u saw was me
jk lust 3pc its immortal
yea still for a character with sporadic power allocation (base int str wep dex stat)
yes its normal savage no ring pally beat savage no ring bear

[Marika1]

yes its normal savage no ring pally gets butt kicked by savage no ring bear

There u go fyp. 99 percent of savage pallies are food for my 75 bear. And i am not even that good.

[bearuang]

There u go fyp. 99 percent of savage pallies are food for my 75 bear. And i am not even that good.

yea i admit that no ring savage bear like have more advantages when vs no ring savage pally but that i meant its from point of view where they can even that good without using their own base stat and using another wep and another stat, combination of 3 element

[Rodder]

All the pallies you named here have the 3pc ring. Maybe u seen them beat savage no ring bears or something and thought to yourself pally is op. Can you name any good pallies that do not have 3pc ring? Because ive seen savage no ring bears destroy lust 3pc pallies in pvp. Is the pally still op? FYI since i started pvp, i have never seen a savage no ring pally beat a savage no ring bear FT10. Ever. Do you know of any?

You never seen it cause they mostly all suck, which is why they are str cause if they went int they'd be even worse.

[Marika1]

Rodder, its very hard to kite bear, especially with savage. Its very hard to escape that first beckon. Which is why dex bears can be even more powerful than normal str bears. And if u try to stay close to a bear, i mean it might work against str bears sometimes, (more fail than work from what i have seen), but against dex bears...forget about it. At 77, that dagger set placed on bears is the most ridiculous thing i have ever seen. Even the range of the dagger is dumb. It has more like 10m range. And 76 swift bears beckon stomp gf savage pally easily. Sometimes even lust. Even if somehow first beckon is dodged, chances are in favor of the bear. And with 3pc ring, dex bears start to win fights against experienced players from other classes in their first hour of pvp.

[Ignitedmage]

That's what you are doing in. In PVP = DM I prefer you a bear str/dex
PVP = CTF I prefer you a bird for ks and they r good in ctf for hiding lol
PVE = PVE MAges are best for pve and i don't know why. Just kite the mobs to have 100k + kills and 0 deaths

[anahadaz]

Why are you necroing old threads?

[iRandom]

Why are you necroing old threads?

i think hes getting paid

[DudeitsJacob]

Definitely op,considering my friends excuse for not starting new pvping levels is " bears are op at that level " but imo I believe rhinos are up since their literal only buff is the armor buff, for some reason the force buffs cancel them out like rhinos are op with just one but they aren't, (and I mean low level rhinos not the endgame ones) but yaaa.

[iRandom]

Definitely op,considering my friends excuse for not starting new pvping levels is " bears are op at that level " but imo I believe rhinos are up since their literal only buff is the armor buff, for some reason the force buffs cancel them out like rhinos are op with just one but they aren't, (and I mean low level rhinos not the endgame ones) but yaaa.

u clearly do not play rhino

[Nhane]

bear are end game =[