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    Default What is the etiquette for running in a party?

    Hi guys,

    I've been playing for a couple of weeks and looking for some guidance on the proper etiquette for battling in a party with a rogue and/or warrior, especially concerning taking kills or entering into a map/party. I'm a mage with these stats and these skills. Thx for the help!

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    Im not sure what your asking... but as far as skills go u should drop lightning and instead use ice or gale for mob control
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    Use a happy pet and health and mana potions. There isn't really much in the way of etiquette, just make sure you're helping your party. Don't enter a map then go afk. As far as kills don't be concerned about that. Most people want to get in and out of a map asap so just give it all you got and you're good to go!

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    Thanks for the tips guys!

    I noticed that rogues appreciate the mana but warriors seem to get upset and leave the party. Sometimes I try to back off so I am not getting all of the kills but it doesn't seem to help. Seems to work best when there is a warrior just trying to clear the map and not concerned with kills.

    I'll try to keep Ethyl happy and use potions but often I'm killed so fast I don't have a chance to use potions.

    I tried ice but lightening seemed to work better. I know different mages have different preferences. If there is more that I can do for a party let me know. All tips are appreciated!

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    Lose heal. Rogues need to learn to be self-sufficient earlier than level 41. Fire, Ice, Lightning, Clock. No such thing as kill stealing in pve. If people care about kills, they can go solo.

    As gem said, don't go afk in a map, don't join a party and then ask people to wait because you then decide to make a cup of tea. Stay with the group, don't go running off on your own (this is highly annoying) and thank the party for the runs after you're done. Basic manners.

    If a warrior gets huffy about kills, he is clearly playing the wrong class. Nothing to do with you.
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    I give you one tip that I give to all mages....

    You are not a mana provider! These pots cost you money!

    Anyone wants mana tell them to buy pots!
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    I like making coffee in the middle of a map. Anyway jokes apart, if warriors get upset because you are stealing kills, say him to go solo. You shouldn't stay back so you dont seal kills, you should stay back so you don't get hit the most. Mages are most squishy class, stay back only for that!
    Warriors mostly do seem to have argument with mages everytime that's my personal experiences in pugs lol.
    But yeah get ice. Keep lightning. Use lightning at bosses.
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    As long as i'm concerned I have 3 rules for mages to be in my party.
    1. Dont be underleveled, and since you are leveling atm thats NP
    2. HAVE SHIELD. If you dont have shield, im not running with you.
    The reason is lvl 38 shieldless mages fighting paraselcus and complaining about dying.
    3. dont go AFK/type during serious fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinathedemo View Post
    As long as i'm concerned I have 3 rules for mages to be in my party.
    1. Dont be underleveled, and since you are leveling atm thats NP
    2. HAVE SHIELD. If you dont have shield, im not running with you.
    The reason is lvl 38 shieldless mages fighting paraselcus and complaining about dying.
    3. dont go AFK/type during serious fights.
    Omg 2nd point!!!
    Reminds me the good old times (not real good tho).
    lots of mages in pug i met, couldnt cross the pool. "I dont have shield" like whattha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dex Scene View Post
    Omg 2nd point!!!
    Reminds me the good old times (not real good tho).
    lots of mages in pug i met, couldnt cross the pool. "I dont have shield" like whattha
    Yeah, and they wouldnt leave EITHER, they would be like "K ill guard then" *DIES*
    It took me just a few days to stop with pugs because of these mages.
    Ran the second week of event ONLY in partys Where i made sure mages could pass.

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    Thanks for all of the tips guys.

    As long as I'm being fair and not breaking any etiquette, though I can certainly understand why warriors might walk. Seems like rogues might be the most balanced class. Tanks are a must for mages but it seems unfair that the tanks are taking all of the heat while the mages get the highest percentage of kills. Are warriors compensated in some other manner?

    Healing is there mostly because I am running solo alot and I rather heal than keep paying for pots. I use shield mostly in tombs but maybe there are better ways to run. Thx again for all of the advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinathedemo View Post
    Yeah, and they wouldnt leave EITHER, they would be like "K ill guard then" *DIES*
    It took me just a few days to stop with pugs because of these mages.
    Ran the second week of event ONLY in partys Where i made sure mages could pass.
    Lol yeap they wouldn't leave and always wanting to guard. Truce!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dex Scene View Post
    Omg 2nd point!!!
    Reminds me the good old times (not real good tho).
    lots of mages in pug i met, couldnt cross the pool. "I dont have shield" like whattha
    I don't use shield but wind worked for getting across pools fighting para.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wutzgood View Post
    I don't use shield but wind worked for getting across pools fighting para.
    Was talking about some mages in pug who didnt have gale either. Also some got cornerd while gale forcing and stuck in the pool and dieing. Shield also saved from those spike at para! Its a necessary skill for a middle class mage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dex Scene View Post
    Was talking about some mages in pug who didnt have gale either. Also some got cornerd while gale forcing and stuck in the pool and dieing. Shield also saved from those spike at para! Its a necessary skill for a middle class mage!
    Lol I did run into some of those mages. Even with a warrior guarding and shielding them they would die crossing. Was just pointing out gale works also lol.

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    Thanks guys! When should I start adding gale based upon my current stats shown above (just added 1 to my shield to increase damage protect by 15%). Thx again.

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    Add Ice first IMO. I know you said you prefer light, but to me Ice is as effective as clock in some situations and is great if you solo ( which you said you are doing).

    Gale is a skill that takes time to master and use effectively, and is often used instead of fire.

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    Yes, get ice asap. You can freeze pesky fast hard hitting enemies like shadowmancers in Shuyal with it, the crabs in Kraken Isles, the shamans and dragkins in Tindirin, making it relatively safer for you to go into the mob (stunned with fireball first) to drop your clock.

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    Ever thought about number 2 too, but I tried with no shield and heal.
    It is possible to through pool while last paracelsus event. (not only middle class mage, im newbie and done it)
    Just charged gale force, done it! As long as know the blue light on the floor, keep moving while fighting it can avoid the spikes.

    It also can through planar tombs lvl 1 and 2, I'm not yet go lvl 3, will try it soon. hope it can

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    OK guys. Thx for the advice. Will unlock ice on next level up.

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