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    Default Pvp non-lucked based

    So I was thinking, it'd be really nice if in PvP you would always (100%) hit your skills, but still miss autos.

    Reason why it's so lucked based and non-skill based is in 15 pvp for example, if you're a bear and miss your stomp, you lose, making it very luck based. But if skills would always hit in PvP, hit % would still be important because of the chance of missing auto attack, but not be insanely stupid luck based like it is now...Follow me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collywobbles115 View Post
    So I was thinking, it'd be really nice if in PvP you would always (100%) hit your skills, but still miss autos.

    Reason why it's so lucked based and non-skill based is in 15 pvp for example, if you're a bear and miss your stomp, you lose, making it very luck based. But if skills would always hit in PvP, hit % would still be important because of the chance of missing auto attack, but not be insanely stupid luck based like it is now...Follow me?

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    If skills always hit in pvp, max beck and stomp bears would be even more op as well as birdies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleNoob View Post
    If skills always hit in pvp, max beck and stomp bears would be even more op as well as birdies.
    It's true, I don't know much about other levels other then 10-22 pvp, but as for 10-22 pvp, you need to be able to hit your skills 100%.

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    Then mages would have no chance

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    im with this to an extent
    at low level youre hit is not very developed its one of the problems of lower levels, you are meant to be weaker

    but then at higher levels the problem is with dodge and hit

    mid level range the hit debuffs are important part of skill and while they rely partially on luck, knowing how, when, and who to use them on is what makes you good, but when the opponents dodge them it totally defeats this

    endgame the hit debuffs are far to extreme and withe 40-70 dodge its really just who ever land hellscream or blind even birds can have their hit knocked well below 100 in ctf, usually they are dead first but still its very possible


    best solution i could think of is to change the buff stats
    change dodge to only dodge auto attacks
    then for self buffs make rage increase as a buff like rank 1: 30% hit, 7 dmg, 7 crit then each rank would be 5 less hit, but 7 more dmg and crit, it would lower the over all dmg for bears at 15 since alot would probably use rank one rage, but that would actually free up more skill points for more build variety

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosstinytitan View Post
    Then mages would have no chance
    Pls get logic. Least reliance on dodge = more beneficial. Unless you're a pally of course, in which case, ur bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingFu View Post
    Pls get logic. Least reliance on dodge = more beneficial. Unless you're a pally of course, in which case, ur bad.
    when you gonna play o&c with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarlan View Post
    when you gonna play o&c with me
    Once I complete my Rubik's cube!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingFu View Post
    Once I complete my Rubik's cube!!
    i remember when i used to do that, learned how like in high school, too bad i cant give you tips anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarlan View Post
    i remember when i used to do that, learned how like in high school, too bad i cant give you tips anymore
    Dang, I can only get the blue side done

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    same, one side is like all i got now

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    Default Pvp non-lucked based

    This games all about range if you aint got it well you will just get rekt. I actually stand a chance against bears now because i learned my distance besides the dodges everything else is fine. But i still find it funny how a 70 bear in crappy humanian gear can one stomp innocent fiery mages XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somemager View Post
    This games all about range if you aint got it well you will just get rekt. I actually stand a chance against bears now because i learned my distance besides the dodges everything else is fine. But i still find it funny how a 70 bear in crappy humanian gear can one stomp innocent fiery mages XD
    thats not luck
    One-Stomp = Skill
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    Okay, okay, I can see where it would be lame for higher levels...but still lv15 especially is SO stupid bear vs bear, it's 85% luck on hitting and critting your skills

    Maybe buff lower level's hit%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collywobbles115 View Post
    Okay, okay, I can see where it would be lame for higher levels...but still lv15 especially is SO stupid bear vs bear, it's 85% luck on hitting and critting your skills

    Maybe buff lower level's hit%?
    Just get artisan instead of relying on expert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collywobbles115 View Post
    Okay, okay, I can see where it would be lame for higher levels...but still lv15 especially is SO stupid bear vs bear, it's 85% luck on hitting and critting your skills

    Maybe buff lower level's hit%?
    omg stomp kite is actually skill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collywobbles115 View Post
    So I was thinking, it'd be really nice if in PvP you would always (100%) hit your skills, but still miss autos.

    Reason why it's so lucked based and non-skill based is in 15 pvp for example, if you're a bear and miss your stomp, you lose, making it very luck based. But if skills would always hit in PvP, hit % would still be important because of the chance of missing auto attack, but not be insanely stupid luck based like it is now...Follow me?

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    if u miss stomp then fly backwards level to 77 use a dex set then stomp. if u miss then crai
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