Can we come up with some amicable solution for both parties?
What would make it worth the effort for you guys?
How about this:
5 1 1 0.97%
3 3 3 0.97% 0.5 dmg
4 2 1 0.97% 0.25 dmg
Please share your thoughts. Thanks.
Can we come up with some amicable solution for both parties?
What would make it worth the effort for you guys?
How about this:
5 1 1 0.97%
3 3 3 0.97% 0.5 dmg
4 2 1 0.97% 0.25 dmg
Please share your thoughts. Thanks.
You guys came up with a brilliant idea for solving this problem with the para gem. You made it so that the first gem gave a nice extra bonus, but then subsequent gems only give a smaller damage stat. I think it would be smart to use a similar formula for this gem.
Why not give an extra 2% crit bonus for the first gem, and then have the subsequent gems give the regular stats quoted above. That way you motivate every player to want to get one of these (keeping the demand there), while also making it not worthwhile to load up with a full set of these gems.
Also, I have another question.... do the stats of this gem (including the crit stat) scale to level? Or is it like the para gem and all levels get the same stats?
The reason para gems have caused issues at lower levels is because they don't scale. So a level 10 twink loading up with many para gems becomes quite OP. This not only affects PvP, but also affects PvE in relation to these events. With my level 10 twink mage, I can solo the bosses in this event faster than a 4 player party can at end game. My level 10 twink has considerably more damage than my main had during season 1 at the level 16 cap. Yet I believe PvE still scales the same as it did back then.
Another suggestion here: Perhaps lower level PvE needs to scale a bit differently to account for this. It will also make it more difficult for players to create a ton of alts just to run the event. Yes, those that are "pro" twinks should be running the event, and they have the gear to do so even if you make it more difficult. But when I try to do PUGs during this event, I will enter the dungeon and find I am with 3 other players who have the gear that drops from the bards quest and have 8 damage and 15 armor at level 10. No way players like this should be running the event and being able to achieve gold/plat tier, so making it more difficult at lower levels will stop this from happening.
That will then cause the gold & plat tier prizes to be more exclusive, thus they will be worth more and this will be more of a motivator for most players to achieve these tiers. Because right now it seems less expensive to just purchase the new recipe and an eye than actually running the event. I can purchase both for around 1.2m, and that price will surely drop over the coming weeks. How much will it cost me to purchase the energy to get to plat tier?
Last edited by Energizeric; 12-12-2014 at 02:58 PM.
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Perhaps you could create a scaling system which actually does the opposite to what it originally was supposed to do? Lower level players recieve up to 2% crit per gem, while end gamers recieve 1% crit. As twinks aren't walking around with 30% crit, (infact rogues stuggle to reach 20% crit if they dont have a pet which gives 10%+ crit) it could be nice to see crit become a factor in twinks too. The majority of twinks i see have around 3% crit, unless you are a rogue/have samael, but even then, the highest achievable amount of crit is still 20% crit. It would make twinks more exciting -add that end game feel to twinks where crit is inevitable- and it gives the twinks the boost of crit they were looking forward to receiving from this event.
If youre not going to change the gems stats then you should consider increasing the eyes drop rate. Right now its insanely rare making the recipe nearly useless for an overpriced gem. Just saying.
Cara you see we all dislike the gem and its new stats. You change it for us and we will happily plat many toons to get them. No problem!
Ener had the best suggestions.
1. Scale it to the equipment level that its placed in
2. Scale it so only the first one gives the crit punch and each subsequent is less
Let us have ONE gem w/ the original stats at end game.
Yes,,,, in order to reach the Plat Tier, at least ONE gem w/ the original stats.
bring back paracelsu soul stone . :-p lol
Imo a gem for plat tier no matter how OP sucks, a vanity as a LB prize also sucks. You need to start making these events worth running again.
Ursoth was on the right track for rewards, so many people were desperately farming for Dovabear (even tho his aa sucks) and SnS the best pet in the game and only available through the event (huhu) gems and vanities just feel bleurgh, I dont even have motivation to reach gold tier because I know ill be able to buy yowie in 1-2 weeks for the cost of 5-10 energy kits. And as for plat tier for that gem just lol
At its current state its just a bad overall gem. Who prefers tactics or force gear for the extra crit vs assault, brutality or potency? Those are the small handful that will consider using the gem.
At least make it 4/4/4.
A bad price for the plat tier? Sure I would agree with you 100%. But a bad gem overall? Not so sure. Look at it this way. I am a rogue and I incorporate some int and str into my stat distribution. I am sure mages include some str in theirs and maybe dex but not sure and have no clue about tank builds.
Let me use my own distribution as an example. Currently, I am putting 20 points in str, 10 in int and 210 in dex. I have 3.9k health and 1.7k mana. Lets say I put 3 of these gems in my own gear. I get +9 int, str, dex. Lets say these replaced the grand fire gems (which is what most people have). If I wish to retain my original stats, I can remove 9 int and 9 str (18 points) from my original distribution and end up with the same health and mana. Since I am losing 3 dex per gem (9 total), I will add this 9 dex to my stat distribution. I now have 9 free points to add wherever I wish, enhancing my stats in every way. This does not include the crit bonus (of 3%, which is an added bonus). While I cannot speak for tanks and mages, this gem is certainly a viable option for rogues. I would love to get a mages and tanks input on this reasoning and if it applies to them.
That being said, this measly stat increase is certainly not befitting of a plat tier reward, especially one that is so absurdly hard to reach.
This will be the first event where the highest I'll go for any of my toons is gold XD the plat reward isn't worth the effort XD
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Please confirm whether there will be any further changes to this gem. Is this the final version or is it going to change again?
Thanks
Dal
I agree and will wait to run to plat. I don't really want a gem that I'd prob pay 6k for? I wouldn't use it but I hope I could sell for 8k. How do the devs imagine geared end gamers would ever use this? Would you replace a grand tarlok or regular grand with this gem? I want to get inside a devs head. Where do you see the value, ie what would you replace with this gem for an improvement? I can't come up with a good answer...honestly. I hear the reasons for the nerf but how is this gem valuable? I was kidding about the resale earlier in the post. I buy things that I want to use. I can't find one good reason to buy or run for this gem. Love yowie btw.
Oh god, please stick to the current gem stat this time. Rectify it with a more worthy farmable gem in the future. Too much gem changes confuses a lot of people and a lot of false info circulating which have the potential to reach days to players who are not forum-active.
and besides, damage boost is ok but higher crit chance is "God-game-activated".
PVP wise where you will stay most of your AL time
Last edited by epicrrr; 12-12-2014 at 11:28 PM.
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I know you hate low level pvp but,from what I've been hearing and seeing on youtube about rog 1-hit KO everyone, PVP will be more ruined at 41 if you put the orignal crit stats on the syrillax gem, you wont have any problem whether they buff or nerfed syrillax again cause you're a rog.
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This is not late for making some change
actually many players don't run and prefer to buy recipe and eye in auction ( 1m for both) lol
please release an official statement regarding the lb prizes... is just the vanity or other stuff too?
Did perpetual happiness in the Garden of Eden maybe get so boring that eating the apple was justified?
And energy is selling for 30% less than Halloween. I couldn't sell energy fast enough. Now it's almost on par with selling ankhs. Maybe that many more people bought plat to sell energy or maybe people aren't running as much. Either way, the supply is def more than the demand, whatever that may mean.
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