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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    If it's reserved - the player has rights to use that name. Upon selling the reservation, there was no time frame slated. I already explained that name reservations have been functioning and selling this way for quite a long time now.

    Furthermore, if it is not considered stealing, then how come there have been cases where the name has been returned to the rightful owner.
    Thirdly, customer favoritism is not illegal. Some customers are more preferred than others. However, I do not see anywhere where stg states they support customer favoritism. Lastly, if it's a paid name, then that person is a customer for that product. Someone taking the name of an already reserved product is not favoritism - it's just a double sale.

    Fourthly, read the part of the ToS says where players are licensed to use the software and STG can do anything they want. As long as they're following US laws, they may do anything they desire.

    If there is no time limit, then it is by default, it has no expiration date. Therefore, indeed, for life. They cannot sell something and then state: "Oh wait, this product had a time limit!". It has to be done before so the customer is aware.

    Reservation can be temporary or permanent. The way it has been sold for the past two years goes to show that the reservations were permanent. They need to be clearly stated if reservations are set to expire or they are not. As mentioned before, since there was no time limit, then by default, there was no expiration date.




    Also, keep in mind that these were in a time when free platinum was just starting to be tried out and offers were extremely scarce.
    Did sts tell you there was no limits. Its a conclusion you arrived to by yourself and now you are building castles on your opinions. Even Ceo without full knowledge arrives to the conclusions reserving a name should be temporal. And yes Zeus favouritsm is not allowed ( a dear moderator was sent away cause of this) so wouldnt it be a paradox if sts now takes the names i legitimately acquired by doing as everyone does and giving it back to the previous owners. Where is it written that creating a new toon and picking a absolutely free name is stealing? How do you steal a free thing?

    You say AL is a sts game and they are free to do what they want? YOU out off all people! Then explain this paradox. Why did you fight so fiercely agaisnt sts releasing recolored arlors or breeze being nerfed or for sts to buff sns? Why are you even here fighting for your name not to be released if sts can do as it pleases them?

    Those are rhetorical questions of course you know i know the answer, and the answer is strawman tactics aka chip more please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    Did sts tell you there was no limits. Its a conclusion you arrived to by yourself and now you are building castles on your opinions. Even Ceo without full knowledge arrives to the conclusions reserving a name should be temporal. And yes Zeus favouritsm is not allowed ( a dear moderator was sent away cause of this) so wouldnt it be a paradox if sts now takes the names i legitimately acquired by doing as everyone does and giving it back to the previous owners. Where is it written that creating a new toon and picking a absolutely free name is stealing? How do you steal a free thing?

    You say AL is a sts game and they are free to do what they want? YOU out off all people! Then explain this paradox. Why did you fight so fiercely agaisnt sts releasing recolored arlors or breeze being nerfed or for sts to buff sns? Why are you even here fighting for your name not to be released if sts can do as it pleases them?

    Those are rhetorical questions of course you know i know the answer, and the answer is strawman tactics aka chip more please.
    No, that moderator was sent away for other things much worse that I am not allowed to discuss on these forums. If your entire argument is based off of that, then you're dead wrong.

    If there's no time limits, then a product is set not to expire. If not, then when does the platinum in your account expire? I do not see an expiration date on that. An item that's slated to expire must be sold with an expiration date. Hence why you see deals on phone contracts with "offer ends *insert date here*" or methods that prevent grandfathering in. This is the common rule. I do not know why I'm arguing though. It seems that all I need to do is send an email, like Commanderkeen suggested and the names are linked to account again.

    P.S: My quote on asommers shows that STG does not expire names for inactivity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    No, that moderator was sent away for other things much worse that I am not allowed to discuss on these forums. If your entire argument is based off of that, then you're dead wrong.

    If there's no time limits, then a product is set not to expire. If not, then when does the platinum in your account expire? I do not see an expiration date on that. An item that's slated to expire must be sold with an expiration date. Hence why you see deals on phone contracts with "offer ends *insert date here*" or methods that prevent grandfathering in. This is the common rule. I do not know why I'm arguing though. It seems that all I need to do is send an email, like Commanderkeen suggested and the names are linked to account again.

    P.S: My quote on asommers shows that STG does not expire names for inactivity.
    Your quote of asommers proves nothing. He was referring to the names that could be reserved from other games while name reservation system was still available and that was lots of time ago. Things change.
    AL is a successful game and having a good name is synonym of success and popularity. Names are very impprtant so it shouldnt be a surprise if majority insist unused names should be released and sts eventually listens to them.
    I am not basing my argument on anyones departure though favouritsm definately was one of the motives that moderator was put away.

    On the other hand you are basing everything on the fact since you paid to reserve a name it should be yours forever. You are talking as if you dont know how things work in AL. STS is not allowed to take away a name i legitimately own and give it to another person. I dont care whether they have done it before they are not allowed to do such things and you shouldnt think this complex mess can be solved just like that. The moment you deleted your name you have lost any right on it. What was guaranteed when you booked the reservation was the fact you could use it first. You were not warned about any limited ownership but neither were you guaranteed eternal ownership on the AL reserved names, that is why if StS choose today to release the unused reserved names they can do it.

    Ps: the name reservation mechanics when you could delete a name and it would remaib confined to the account was something you concluded on your own. In 1 year of daily active forum i havent seen a dev confirm it was actually intended to work that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    Your quote of asommers proves nothing. He was referring to the names that could be reserved from other games while name reservation system was still available and that was lots of time ago. Things change.
    AL is a successful game and having a good name is synonym of success and popularity. Names are very impprtant so it shouldnt be a surprise if majority insist unused names should be released and sts eventually listens to them.
    I am not basing my argument on anyones departure though favouritsm definately was one of the motives that moderator was put away.

    On the other hand you are basing everything on the fact since you paid to reserve a name it should be yours forever. You are talking as if you dont know how things work in AL. STS is not allowed to take away a name i legitimately own and give it to another person. I dont care whether they have done it before they are not allowed to do such things and you shouldnt think this complex mess can be solved just like that. The moment you deleted your name you have lost any right on it. What was guaranteed when you booked the reservation was the fact you could use it first. You were not warned about any limited ownership but neither were you guaranteed eternal ownership on the AL reserved names, that is why if StS choose today to release the unused reserved names they can do it.
    Thanks for your opinion, got the names linked back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    Your quote of asommers proves nothing. He was referring to the names that could be reserved from other games while name reservation system was still available and that was lots of time ago. Things change.
    AL is a successful game and having a good name is synonym of success and popularity. Names are very impprtant so it shouldnt be a surprise if majority insist unused names should be released and sts eventually listens to them.
    I am not basing my argument on anyones departure though favouritsm definately was one of the motives that moderator was put away.

    On the other hand you are basing everything on the fact since you paid to reserve a name it should be yours forever. You are talking as if you dont know how things work in AL. STS is not allowed to take away a name i legitimately own and give it to another person. I dont care whether they have done it before they are not allowed to do such things and you shouldnt think this complex mess can be solved just like that. The moment you deleted your name you have lost any right on it. What was guaranteed when you booked the reservation was the fact you could use it first. You were not warned about any limited ownership but neither were you guaranteed eternal ownership on the AL reserved names, that is why if StS choose today to release the unused reserved names they can do it.

    Ps: the name reservation mechanics when you could delete a name and it would remaib confined to the account was something you concluded on your own. In 1 year of daily active forum i havent seen a dev confirm it was actually intended to work that way.
    Obviously it does work that way. STG took Cancer off whoever had it and put it back on my account and linked it back.


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