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    Question What am I doing wrong? Rogue question

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    So, why am I not one shot'ing these players when they probably have tap HP (or possible armor upgrade max) at 2-5k stacking with high damage moves? There's a player by the name a nekat & "Iamnumbertwo" who were one shot'ing me with DPS 430 & crit only at 34%, hp 2000<less, and armor 1200> +. Why am I not taking these people down?
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    Aimed shot it's dmg output is based on dmg not dps, I suggest grabbing a bow for that and not daggers.

    I guess you do have the 250% dmg on crit upgrade?

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    Maybe u are just unlucky and you never crit. With gear like that it should be easy

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    Get 5/5 DEX, INT, STR and crit to the rest. Aimed shot, nox, piercer and packs.

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    Try using a bow instead of hooks at level 38 lol

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    Lol arcane hooks don't cut it at lvl 38. Use a better weapon.

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    Try using twin razors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingofninjas View Post
    Lol arcane hooks don't cut it at lvl 38. Use a better weapon.
    Quote Originally Posted by - Samdegreat View Post
    Try using a bow instead of hooks at level 38 lol


    So, you'd use a weapon with much worse stats than a better stats weapon?

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    Up to you dude. Obviously if you think hooks are better than entangled bow you deserve to be farmed. I feel bad for people who farm you as they will probably be known as dummy farmers after the incident.
    And try buying a level 38 expedition bow of potency or a lvl 36 nightmarish daggers.

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    Lol. Look at that enormous damage increase, there's no way that it's worse at all.

    Just buy yourself some 36 mythic daggers. They're better in every way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UndeadJudge View Post
    Lol. Look at that enormous damage increase, there's no way that it's worse at all.

    Just buy yourself some 36 mythic daggers. They're better in every way.
    You know, it'd be better to actually educate readers than sarcastically telling me why it's "better in every way". I would not part my hooks for just one stat area increase out of everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCreed View Post
    You know, it'd be better to actually educate readers than sarcastically telling me why it's "better in every way". I would not part my hooks for just one stat area increase out of everything else.
    1. He wasnt sarcastic at all
    2. Twin razorbacks are better than hooks
    3. Why arent u using combat medic? Thats why you are losing, you have no healing
    4. Dps doesnt matter at all, dmg does. A 40 dmg increase for 30 less mana and 200 less health is worth it

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    Also try a better pet like slag, hj, or glacian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowz View Post
    Also try a better pet like slag, hj, or glacian
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowz View Post
    1. He wasnt sarcastic at all
    2. Twin razorbacks are better than hooks
    3. Why arent u using combat medic? Thats why you are losing, you have no healing
    4. Dps doesnt matter at all, dmg does. A 40 dmg increase for 30 less mana and 200 less health is worth it
    Your terrible idea will be tried and will fail. Also, I do own Glacian, Slag is a terrible pet choice stats pet for Rogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCreed View Post
    Your terrible idea will be tried and will fail. Also, I do own Glacian, Slag is a terrible pet choice stats pet for Rogue.
    Is this why every time im against a glacian user i beat them with slag? Lmao. And ur the one using shadow veil instead of combat medic. How do u expect to pvp without heals? This is why you lose, and your using a lvl 26 item at lvl 38. One of my friends pvps at lvl 38 and he farms the lvl 40s all day. Hes using mythic ring, fang of fenrir, mythic armor and helm. Atleast you got thst right, and hes using twin razorbacks and samael. His stats are far better because hes using twin razorbacks. Also he knows how to build rogue and actually uses combat medic. So dont say other peoples ideas are terrible when YOU are the one complaining about losing and YOU are the one who doesnt know how to build a rogue and YOU are the one asking other people for help. So who is the real one with terrible ideas?

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    I feel sorry for every single person that replied to this thread. They wasted 2 minutes of their life trying to help a rude and ignorant guy.

    If you ask for help, at least try the suggested build out. Combat medic is your heal, it is not optional.
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    im not sure i understand what do u want....if you want pve then veil is a good choise, as for pvp you need packs.Bows have more dmg....and u need dmg, a dead rogue is a no dmg rogue. I personaly dont kile daggers because of there close range. Glacian is an awesome pet if you learn to use him right, same as for slag.....

    i think u need to explore what u like more and decide whats best for you have fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziiii View Post
    im not sure i understand what do u want....if you want pve then veil is a good choise, as for pvp you need packs.Bows have more dmg....and u need dmg, a dead rogue is a no dmg rogue. I personaly dont kile daggers because of there close range. Glacian is an awesome pet if you learn to use him right, same as for slag.....

    i think u need to explore what u like more and decide whats best for you have fun
    You can be a great damage dealer with/without the glacian. It's not required but it'd be nice to have, granted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bless View Post
    I feel sorry for every single person that replied to this thread. They wasted 2 minutes of their life trying to help a rude and ignorant guy.

    If you ask for help, at least try the suggested build out. Combat medic is your heal, it is not optional.
    I wasted my time replying to you, whadda ya know, yet here I am. I'm quite sorry for myself hearing awful answers. You see the stats, you see the build, so then you should see what's going on how my stats are landing 2-4k worth of hits in the order of aimed shot, noxious bolt, shadow piercer, & razor should be walking around with buttery kills, not getting killed but a lesser weaker stats player like what nekat had. I love how writers like yourself sees a disagreement and you like to claim "rude" & "ignorant" card on me. Welcome to the internet buddy, this is called a discussion. My opinion will differ from yours, and if you can't rationalize an explanation, insulting is the first sign of a lost argument or discussion.

    We're not doing this, so I'm going to go ahead and continue the discussion with other people. However, you and I are done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCreed View Post
    You can be a great damage dealer with/without the glacian. It's not required but it'd be nice to have, granted.



    I wasted my time replying to you, whadda ya know, yet here I am. I'm quite sorry for myself hearing awful answers. You see the stats, you see the build, so then you should see what's going on how my stats are landing 2-4k worth of hits in the order of aimed shot, noxious bolt, shadow piercer, & razor should be walking around with buttery kills, not getting killed but a lesser weaker stats player like what nekat had. I love how writers like yourself sees a disagreement and you like to claim "rude" & "ignorant" card on me. Welcome to the internet buddy, this is called a discussion. My opinion will differ from yours, and if you can't rationalize an explanation, insulting is the first sign of a lost argument or discussion.

    We're not doing this, so I'm going to go ahead and continue the discussion with other people. However, you and I are done.
    Maybe you should thank them for TRYING to help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCreed View Post



    to the internet buddy, this is called a discussion. My opinion will differ from yours, and if you can't rationalize an explanation, insulting is the first sign of a lost argument or discussion.
    People can't have opinions and you can, that's obviously fair. So if you ask for someone's opinion and they actually give constructive feedback and you just brush them of as imbecilic opinions, what's the point of asking anyway?
    Back to the OP
    The main things you are doing wrong are:
    1) Arcane hooks don't work very well at lvl 38, if you can afford hooks I'm sure you would probably be able to afford Twin Razorbacks of Force which provide much higher stats than arcane hooks. If you're going low budget, an Entangled Bow Of Tactics would work fine too. Dps is near to useless for rogues as you'll rarely get a chance to use autoattack so dmg is the most important factor. The dmg bonus from the mythic bow provides you with much higher crit(I believe it's what you're concerned about). Also, you seem concerned about losing out on 200 hp and I'll say that at that lvl almost any attack will deal more than 200 dmg so it wouldn't matter too much.
    2) Secondly, damage passives do not work in pvp for rogues if I'm not mistaken so removing the dmg passives and putting them in might, crit and armour passives will work wonders for you (rogues don't get any dmg bonuses in PvP from pet happiness and passives etc). Even if you do run the damage passives, im not sure if pet happiness bonuses will override them.mThe higher armour could also help you survive an additional attack with a tinge of hp for you to quickly heal yourself. Which brings me to the next point.
    3) Combat Medic is a necessity for rogues as it is the only form of reliable recovery a rogue has. This is pretty much self explanatory as if your reflexes and positioning are right you can get to your packs (takes some playing with xD) after getting hit with a huge crit.
    4) My last point is your gear. They seem fine but probably a better set such as full upgraded mythic would work much better.

    Please do respect people on this forum, everyone is here to help each other out and even when we might sound overbearing, the main purpose of us here is to serve

    Note: The Entangled Bow does not have "much worse" stats than arcane hooks. Would you rather kill a rogue in one combo or survive an autoattack? The answer is pretty clear for me

    Have fun! The responses of everyone are extremely precise and spot on too so please do respect other

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