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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCreed View Post
    Nekat plays on PC, you can see skipped animations of the AI, which shows clear script activity, thus makes you incompetent understanding someone potentially modding.
    This ^^^.
    Now we all know why he can never win in PvP.

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    Skills:

    Aimed Shot: 5/5
    Noxious Bolt: 1/5 (main upgrade)
    Shadow Piercer: 2/5 (main upgrade + HP regen)
    Combat Medic: 5/5
    Razor Shield (optional - fighting mages & clashes, sometimes): 2/5 (main upgrade + spinning freedom)

    Passives:

    5/5 INT, STR, DEX, Crit, Armor (optional)

    If you want to win in PvP at all, you need this. As for gear, upgrade your mythics and buy a mythic bow L41 - hooks won't cut it at this level (assuming you're planning to lvl up to 41).

    Something you must understand is, it isn't easy to become the best; you have to work hard to learn how to play your class best and nothing anyone can tell you can ever beat personal experience.

    P.S: don't worry about losing to Iamnumbertwo, he is seriously good for his gear, lol.

    Pet: Malison is the best overall non-arcane for rogue IMO. Use that or Glacian which I believe you already have? And scorch is pretty bad for regular fights, however on rogue vs rogue its OP (speaking from experience), so hold on to that if you want to challenge a rogue.

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    Here is my current setup:

    1# Gear
    Helm: Upgraded Mythic (+18 Dex)
    Body: Upgraded Mythic (+6 Dex, 2 eye gems)
    Ring: Arcane Ring (3 eye gems)
    Amulet: Planar Amulet (3 eye gems)

    2# weapon of choice
    Elondrian bow (3 para) [I prefer this over daggers for the significant increase in damage and better usage in PvE and kiting/stunning in PvP]

    3# Pet
    Samael for PvP, Abaddon for PvE

    4# skill set
    PvP:
    5/5 Aim
    3/5 Nox
    2/5 Pierce
    5/5 Packs
    5/5 Int, Crit, Str, Dex, Armor

    PvE:
    5/5 aim
    4/5 nox
    1/5 pierce
    5/5 traps and 5/5 veil
    5/5 int, dex, crit, str

    5# stat set
    Not sure what this is referring to. See pictures for stats.

    6# Pictures

    (This is an old screenshot. My crit is now 48%)
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    One piece of advice that I want to give you is that gear does matter, but skill still trumps gear, even in end game. People may disagree but I know many players who are vastly undergeared, and still wreck fully maxed players. I'll give a shout out to Iady who does this on a daily basis. She only recently got a Planar Amulet, and still rocks a mythic ring and gets more kills than a lot of arcane ring, planar amulet rogues I know.

    Some additional quick tips:
    In CTF leave a game if your enemy is fighting unfairly, or the teams are unbalanced.
    Learn the distance of your skills so you can hit an enemy and retreat to safety out of their range.
    Learn to use walls in CTF, and trees in TDM to your advantage so you can shoot your enemy unscathed
    Find a strong rogue to learn from, or join a guild where you can be among pro rogues who you will learn from by watching
    Finally, practice practice practice.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raw View Post
    Here is my current setup:

    1# Gear
    Helm: Upgraded Mythic (+18 Dex)
    Body: Upgraded Mythic (+6 Dex, 2 eye gems)
    Ring: Arcane Ring (3 eye gems)
    Amulet: Planar Amulet (3 eye gems)

    2# weapon of choice
    Elondrian bow (3 para) [I prefer this over daggers for the significant increase in damage and better usage in PvE and kiting/stunning in PvP]

    3# Pet
    Samael for PvP, Abaddon for PvE

    4# skill set
    PvP:
    5/5 Aim
    3/5 Nox
    2/5 Pierce
    5/5 Packs
    5/5 Int, Crit, Str, Dex, Armor

    PvE:
    5/5 aim
    4/5 nox
    1/5 pierce
    5/5 traps and 5/5 veil
    5/5 int, dex, crit, str

    5# stat set
    Not sure what this is referring to. See pictures for stats.

    6# Pictures

    (This is an old screenshot. My crit is now 48%)
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    One piece of advice that I want to give you is that gear does matter, but skill still trumps gear, even in end game. People may disagree but I know many players who are vastly undergeared, and still wreck fully maxed players. I'll give a shout out to Iady who does this on a daily basis. She only recently got a Planar Amulet, and still rocks a mythic ring and gets more kills than a lot of arcane ring, planar amulet rogues I know.

    Some additional quick tips:
    In CTF leave a game if your enemy is fighting unfairly, or the teams are unbalanced.
    Learn the distance of your skills so you can hit an enemy and retreat to safety out of their range.
    Learn to use walls in CTF, and trees in TDM to your advantage so you can shoot your enemy unscathed
    Find a strong rogue to learn from, or join a guild where you can be among pro rogues who you will learn from by watching
    Finally, practice practice practice.

    Good luck!
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    Daggers beat bow any day if a rogue knows how to use them well. From what I know, no rogue with bow survived to end of finals. Heck, RIP didn't have mythic amulet but had daggers and was still able to wipe anyone excluding me.

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    Try red bull

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    Quote Originally Posted by raw View Post
    5# stat set
    Not sure what this is referring to. See pictures for stats.
    His referring to your Stat distribution, in your SS I say your pure DEX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Daggers beat bow any day if a rogue knows how to use them well. From what I know, no rogue with bow survived to end of finals. Heck, RIP didn't have mythic amulet but had daggers and was still able to wipe anyone excluding me.

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    I agree that daggers > bow (mythic ofc) at your gear level, but at mine, and ArcaneCreed will certainly be closer to mine than yours, bow definitely trumps daggers. Simple reason? Damage has actually become an issue while fighting ring rogues with new amulet as it is very difficult, if possible at all, to 1 hit or even combo kill them without arcane ring or new amulet. You saw this while I tested your armor and health. Since this player whom we are (trying to) advicing stated he cannot afford maxed out gear, for him bow would be more helpful than daggers imo.

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    I you want watch how to get better in pvp with rouge and your bored watch youtube videos of an rouge (zeus example) how he fight it can work

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    Its all a lie! combat medic is worthless, all these ppl are trying to confuse you arcanecreed, don't use it, its a conspiracy!
    I was crazy before it was fashionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihateppl View Post
    Its all a lie! combat medic is worthless, all these ppl are trying to confuse you arcanecreed, don't use it, its a conspiracy!
    Lol and arcanecred replace aimed shot with storm shot too.

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    Don't use packs! Just type /invulnerability, only nabs play with heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Here's an update of stats with the improved build:



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    Thanks! You honestly took the words out of my mouth on the advice. I just wanted to clarify my build as of this date.
    Hey Zeus, awesome info, thx..

    Is your damage as seen here without any elixirs ?

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    Hi Raw

    Great info and advice, can i ask...

    1) Is your damage figure seen here with or wothout elixir ?

    2) how do you get your health so high... do you put points into Str at character creation or are you fully dex specc'd ?

    3) could you post the stats of the upgraded mythic armor / helm so i can compare them to the "normal" version


    Thanks again

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    Great info and advice, can i ask...

    1) Is your damage figure seen here with or wothout elixir ?
    Nope this is without elixir.

    2) how do you get your health so high... do you put points into Str at character creation or are you fully dex specc'd ?
    I am fully dex, but my gear definitely helps my health. Before I had an arcane ring and the planar pendant my health was 3500 flat =P. The arcane ring gives me about 400 health, and the pendant gives me almost 900 health. I use 8 eye gems (which give a decent amount of health!)

    3) could you post the stats of the upgraded mythic armor / helm so i can compare them to the "normal" version
    Unfortunately I don't have any stat screenshots at the moment. But I can say that you'll gain about 250ish armor from upgrading your mythic, as well as a decent amount of health, dex, and crit.

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvngr View Post
    Hey Zeus, awesome info, thx..

    Is your damage as seen here without any elixirs ?
    Yes, that is my damage without any elixirs. With elixirs, it goes to 924-926, I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Yes, that is my damage without any elixirs. With elixirs, it goes to 924-926, I believe.
    Zeus why is it that you pick Armor as your passive to invest points in instead of damage ?

    Does putting 5/5 points into damage passive not give enough to warant it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvngr View Post
    Zeus why is it that you pick Armor as your passive to invest points in instead of damage ?

    Does putting 5/5 points into damage passive not give enough to warant it ?
    Damage percents do not stack with each other and are disabled for rogues in PvP.

    So, in PvE, if I already have a damage percent boost in my pet, it will not stack with the passive boost. Instead, the game chooses the higher percent.

    And, as I stated, in PvP, damage percents are disabled.


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