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    Default Breeze and Undead Vials

    Hello all,

    So as you know we're taking steps to be more proactive in issues the community wants us to address, and these are two that are presently on the docket. I'm going to explore some them in more detail and then propose the changes, along with any necessary explanations as to why certain things are being changed the way they are.

    Without further ado, let's dive in to Breeze!
    (Undead Vials further down)

    This one has been a hot topic. There have been many threads, some very long, with information regarding how he's being used, misused, and generally wreaking havoc on PvP in the game. The gist of the issue is that his freeze abilities are overpowered, and Mages feel slighted that they don't get what this pet does! It's a big deal, and we recognize that. We've had quite a few internal discussions on pros and cons to different approaches and proposed adjustments, in addition to community feedback on what you would like to see change.

    Here's what we've come up with:

    Breeze!

    Breeze General
    - Breeze's Movement speed has been increased about 10% to help him stay closer to his owner when playing catchup. This felt like a good way to boost him a little bit after the adjustments that are being made to his other abilities

    Breeze Passive Attacks
    - Maximum freeze time has been reduced from 4.0 seconds to 2.5 seconds, this applies to PvE and PvP
    • Four seconds feels long enough thinking about it, but when you're actually in the heat of battle it's just too long even with a chance every 1 second to remove itself

    - During this freeze in PvP, there is a 25% chance every .75 seconds that the freeze will remove itself early, that's 3 chances to break early
    • This makes it consistent with other stuns in PvP. You may get lucky and be able to shrug off that freeze early, or have to struggle through the full 2.5s

    - After the passive freeze has been removed it will apply a freeze immunity independent of the stun immunity. This immunity will last either 7.5s or 10s. It will always be at least 7.5s, and at 7.5s it will have a 50/50 chance to stay on for another 2.5s or fall off at that 2.5s
    • This is a separate immunity in order to maintain Breeze being a bit more special given the amount of time he has been available with his present overpowered stats. We didn't have to do this, but it feels like a good middle ground. The length of the stun immunity is also a bit longer on average than normal stun immunities.

    - Damage remains the same, as does it's ability to reduce movement speed
    • The only components of this to change are the ones causing the problems basically



    Breeze Activated Ability
    - Upon cast, there is a 50% chance to apply the 1s stun instead of 100% chance
    • Every time it was cast, it was getting a guaranteed

    - The ice pool left on the ground now has a 50% chance to apply the same stun every tick instead of 100%
    • Subject to the same rules as the original cast, in lesser intervals. If you get away from the danger zone in a timely manner it won't catch you

    - The stun effect applied in this ability is now subject to the 7.5s stun immunity shared by other pet abilities and skills like Fireball Knockdown
    • This prevents "stun lock" scenarios once the ice well goes down

    - The initial damage caused by this ability has been increased to help compensate for the freeze and stun changes.This can crit
    • This should help compensate for the removal of stun locks, by giving a bit more damage on the front end


    These changes are close to moving to QA and going through the process of getting out to everyone, but since it's a focal point we want to make sure the community can voice opinions or concerns with these proposed changes. Please keep in mind that we are always striving to keep the game fun and balanced, and often times we must do what is good for the game in such circumstances. We believe this accomplishes this at this time.

    There are skill changes planned for the future of Arcane Legends, so we're taking a bit of caution in what decisions we make now. We're keeping PvP in mind for skills and want to make the appropriate adjustments at that time.

    Undead Vials
    This is an element we have played with before, but are not seeing the gains we would like too. The community has also voiced this opinion and so there are some potential changes coming. It should be noted that this is a delicate thing to play with because on one hand the Vials are very rare, which means they have real value in the secondary market of the game when you acquire one. They also can be used for creation of an Arcane Pet which we don't want to accidentally flood the market with and make abundant.

    In the past Vials were incredibly rare. They were of Epic rarity which made them rarer in their respective loot tables, in addition to their location of relevant drops. When the change was made to make them of rare quality, this helped boost the drop rate quite a bit, but still not in a "tangible" way for the most part. Everyone recalls the Archon Ring fiasco where they were dropping like flies? This pushes into a similar scenario. We can't "push" it to drop more because the act of doing so may displace the drop rates of everything else in the loot tables in an undesirable way.

    With this in mind, here's what we're considering changing for Undead Vials.

    Drop Rate
    We don't want to touch the drop rate, however we would propagate the Vial drop to also be available from Planar Tombs Elite content. Currently it only drops from Shuyal and Tindirin Elites, and this would keep it in line with where we want to see it. The other benefit is that it would now potentially drop in addition to the Planar goodies that are being actively farmed, and not explicitly the reason for doing Elite Shuyal content we hope. Player's already farm Planar, this would just get added to the mix!

    Ultimately this results in more relevant mobs with a chance to drop the vial, which should help pad the Vial population in a healthy way.

    Recipe Change
    Currently the recipe requires 15 Undead Vials and the Arcane Fossil to craft a Nekro egg. The proposed change would reduce this number to 10.

    In addition to these changes, I'm actively discussing with the community about Frost Touched weapons, and I encourage you to join the discussion over here: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...=1#post1999111

    Thanks all,
    Carapace
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    First, poor breeze....

    Feel sorry for legendary player, you'll get owned by arcane player again


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    2nd

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    I'd like to suggest allowing bosses to be frozen from Breeze to help the pet retain some more value. The rest seem thought through, at least on a theoretical level. Nice.

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    Since we're already talking about vials and thus talking about nekro...a buff for nekro would be great. So much goes into a pet that looks great on paper to buff ur stats but has just about no use elsewhere. His aa is about as useful as Dovas is -_-

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    yes 5

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    I had a quick question. For the AA of breeze does the duration of the freeze remain the same? Also, could you please release a statement about mythic amulet recipe and whether you plan on changing the drop rate or adding another method to get it or leaving it as it is. Just looking for some sort of statement like this one.

    Thanks for letting us know about the changed instead of leaving us hanging till they were implemented.

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    Thanks STS to listen to our feedback!

    lets go pvp guys! lets see now what happen if 5 people with breeze on opposite side.

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    Well than you STS for the feedback. Maybe late but it's ok..
    Seriously, all arcane pet looks like a joke because of breeze..

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    not much of comments atm i will first go pvp and see whether i can kill those breeze users or again die in freeze zzz ty for the resuced time and change in breeze abilities

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    All that said and nothing for mages yet again? 3rd class citizen again? Or maybe 4th since a pet is more important than a class.

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    Hmm...

    Not sure how this will work as I don't pvp much, but wiling to keep an open mind.

    When are these changes expected to take effect? Before or after the bug fixes and mage buffs? Hehe... Minor heckling, but just curious honestly :-)

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    Hey sts.

    Thanks on breeze and the vials. Could u change the description on the chemist too??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carapace View Post
    Breeze wreaking havoc on PvP in the game
    I'm a Breeze enthusiast and that quote is an understatement, Breeze is the definition of PVP (pet vs player) .

    Since the nerf is laid upon, I felt like the 10% movement speed increase of Breeze is not so good for boost to compensate on its nerfed PA and AA. It would be better if it can have a little buff on bonus stat it provides to retain his value (he can't even freeze bosses in PVE).

    My suggestion:
    Breeze
    Purchased as an egg with Planar Fragments from the Merchant in the Planar Tombs.
    Purchased for 125 Planar Fragments from Mercier in Planar Tombs
    Happiness Bonus: +15 Primary Stat, +10% Damage, +6% Crit, +5 Mana Regen
    Happiness Bonus: +25 Primary Stat, +10% Damage, +10% Crit, +5 Mana Regen

    Arcane Ability: Ice Hole
    Medium AOE that freezes nearby enemies and causes them to take damage. Players standing in the area will gain increased damage temporarily.

    Passive Ability : Frozen Bite
    A ranged attack that strikes multiple targets, slowing their movement speed, reducing their hit chance, and possibly freezing them.
    The update on vials is great, I just wish that it would been good if it was also added on Planar Arena's master chest or as drop on Planar Arena itself.

    The Breeze nerf and vial droprate issue is long overdue, now I understand why. Thanks for thinking this through this are good updates. But the longest overdue sorcerer's buff is still a pipe-dream. Anyway thank you Carapace for this update
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    *vials*

    great idea love it *appreciated allot!! 10 vials/ also lootable in planar tombs great really great :-D

    *breeze*

    bad thing when u nerf breeze,
    price will drop dramatically xD already feel my wallet burning.
    that sounds kinda greedy tho... but actually its good that u nerf it because breeze is better then some arcane pets atm..

    *necro*
    maybe u can boost him a lil bit because for hess rarety hess not *that good*.
    maybe 15%dmg 12,5 crit would make things interesting.

    tnkx carapace
    *can't wait for the vials to be added to planar tombs loot table*
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    good job sts

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    May we ask when this nerf will be applied to Breeze?

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    oooh poor breeze

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    Thank you for addressing some of our concerns. When will these changes take effect?

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