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    Hi,
    I have a L51 bear which i wanna pvp with but know almost nothing. So I'd be happy if you can gimme some info. about it. (items-price range-how it does and etc.)

    edit: if you have ideas about 40 bear , feel free to share.
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    Bear at 51 is more balanced out than endgame but still quite op at this level

    You'll mostly see bears at 51 using sewer gear with a mix of drainers or just full sewer gear just mix it up and you'll find a set up that suits you. This gear is very cheap usually 300k - 500k not sure on actual prices . If you are lucky to find a reaper at 51 then use it as I've seen it's pretty good on bears.

    I would say combo but I'm aware that you know that already playing bear at endgame and build I'm sure someone see can provide that
    I'm not really a person who plays bear but from what I've seen and from what I know

    Edit - if you've got gold shotty bear looks really fun

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    The classic 51 bear is royal sewer armour and royal sewer helm with raid roach recurve, but some use a sewer king recurve instead for the mana regen. Expect to dodge a lot with that royal gear lol

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    use str gear
    FF sword
    FF shield
    RS helm and RS plate

    btw avoid old birdies bc they know what they doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    use str gear
    FF sword
    FF shield
    RS helm and RS plate

    btw avoid old birdies bc they know what they doing
    I heard str gear is harder than dex. Is that true?


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    L51 Bear is crazy OP and crazy cheap too.

    I have four load outs:
    Full Drainer Set (Self explanatory)
    Full Dodge Set (Royal Sewer Helm and Armor, Drainer Recurve) - For use vs mages and birds
    RR Dodge Set (Royal Sewer Helm and Armor, Raid Roach Recurve) - For use vs other bears
    Regen Set (FF Helm and Armor, Raid Roach Recurve)

    Vs. everything that's not a bear, just pull at 12M, HS, cripple, Cb and dodge.
    Vs. a bear, it's pretty much all luck, try to pull at 12M, HS, stomp, then when you're in close, use CB. CB is the deciding factor in fights at this level against other bears.

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    Also, try and have sms as high as you can without making major sacrifices. 4 beckon is fine, 5 stomp also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineMoustache View Post
    L51 Bear is crazy OP and crazy cheap too.

    I have four load outs:
    Full Drainer Set (Self explanatory)
    Full Dodge Set (Royal Sewer Helm and Armor, Raid Roach Recurve) - For use vs mages and birds
    RR Dodge Set (Royal Sewer Helm and Armor, Raid Roach Recurve) - For use vs other bears
    Regen Set (FF Helm and Armor, Raid Roach Recurve)

    Vs. everything that's not a bear, just pull at 12M, HS, cripple, Cb and dodge.
    Vs. a bear, it's pretty much all luck, try to pull at 12M, HS, stomp, then when you're in close, use CB. CB is the deciding factor in fights at this level against other bears.
    Nah best setup would be royal sewer helm and armor with drainers recurve. You get balanced regen with dodge!

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    Quan, I used to be a decent 51 behr, still am
    I levelled danbilzerian a while ago

    Build is pretty self explanatory

    6 rage
    6 evasion
    6 iron blood
    6 taunt
    5 beckon
    6 stomp
    6 hs
    6 cb
    1 sms
    1 vs
    1 cripp

    6 beckon is too much

    At 51 it is as balanced as it can possibly be
    But you still are unstably overpowered so gear is flexible

    Gears I use

    Loadout 1-
    Royal Sewer Helm
    Bellows Sword(For Op Damage)
    Fury armour
    Bellows or Fury Shield

    Loadout 2-

    Royal sewer helm
    Trapps or Laser talon
    Fury fighter armour
    Bellows shield

    Loadout 3-

    Bellows helm
    Bagmans recurve(Idk it just owns)
    (if you want to spend unnecessary gold buy Raid roach)
    Bellows armour

    Loadout 4

    Bellows helm
    Gurgox hammer
    Bellows armour

    Against mages-

    Beckon hs cb slash stomp sms
    If there not dead
    Finish, it's not hard
    (Loadout 3)

    Bird

    You need to hit beckon or you will be kited
    But that's ok because you have op regen
    Hs beckon cb slash slash stomp sms
    Rinse and repeat,
    Loadout 3

    Behrs

    Sword-latebuff Hs cb beckon stomp sms
    Beckon ha cb slash stomp sms
    These take a long time so....... Improvise
    Bow-To me these are luck based. But your opinion
    Anyway same combo as mage. You can try Juke other behrs beckon but it's ridky
    Loadout 1 or 3

    Foxes

    When they use bow use loadout 2
    If sword loadout 3

    Against bow-Go through mage combo and stomping it far away. Rinse and repeat shouldn't be a problem
    Against sword-most foxes use fury which has insane armour and regen. So try beckon hs cb stomp sms, get them stunned auto and slash whenever there close

    Rhinos-Youll be fine


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    Edit-Hammer is just to show off because you can kill anything with it. If you want you can replace with full drainer
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    End knows what is going on. It's all in the Bellow's, fella's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burstnuke View Post
    Nah best setup would be royal sewer helm and armor with drainers recurve. You get balanced regen with dodge!
    Yeah, meant that for full dodge set ty for the catch

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    Quan, I used to be a decent 51 behr, still am
    I levelled danbilzerian a while ago

    Build is pretty self explanatory

    6 rage
    6 evasion
    6 iron blood
    6 taunt
    5 beckon
    6 stomp
    6 hs
    6 cb
    1 sms
    1 vs
    1 cripp

    6 beckon is too much

    At 51 it is as balanced as it can possibly be
    But you still are unstably overpowered so gear is flexible

    Gears I use

    Loadout 1-
    Royal Sewer Helm
    Bellows Sword(For Op Damage)
    Fury armour
    Bellows or Fury Shield

    Loadout 2-

    Royal sewer helm
    Trapps or Laser talon
    Fury fighter armour
    Bellows shield

    Loadout 3-

    Bellows helm
    Bagmans recurve(Idk it just owns)
    (if you want to spend unnecessary gold buy Raid roach)
    Bellows armour

    Loadout 4

    Bellows helm
    Gurgox hammer
    Bellows armour

    Against mages-

    Beckon hs cb slash stomp sms
    If there not dead
    Finish, it's not hard
    (Loadout 3)

    Bird

    You need to hit beckon or you will be kited
    But that's ok because you have op regen
    Hs beckon cb slash slash stomp sms
    Rinse and repeat,
    Loadout 3

    Behrs

    Sword-latebuff Hs cb beckon stomp sms
    Beckon ha cb slash stomp sms
    These take a long time so....... Improvise
    Bow-To me these are luck based. But your opinion
    Anyway same combo as mage. You can try Juke other behrs beckon but it's ridky
    Loadout 1 or 3

    Foxes

    When they use bow use loadout 2
    If sword loadout 3

    Against bow-Go through mage combo and stomping it far away. Rinse and repeat shouldn't be a problem
    Against sword-most foxes use fury which has insane armour and regen. So try beckon hs cb stomp sms, get them stunned auto and slash whenever there close

    Rhinos-Youll be fine


    51 behr Is easy if you still need help add me

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    Edit-Hammer is just to show off because you can kill anything with it. If you want you can replace with full drainer
    Nice guide, however I think you overuse bellows. It is extremely squishy. Just saying.

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    Hmm, I use bellows when I wanna nuke/Half tank
    It's str gear for insane damage
    But I will try some other stuff
    What do you propose?

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    If you use bellows you should only use one piece at a time. Unless you want some fun rushing, bellows helm and armour with rr recurve. I used to just rr bow with royal helm and armour, and to tank I would royal plate, fury helm and axe, and bellows shield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quantionus View Post
    I heard str gear is harder than dex. Is that true?
    its harder but easier at the same time

    1. If ur a dex (good or bad), then some rusher 51 birds(like me ) will eat u.
    2. If ur str (good ofc!)(like me ofc!), then some rusher birds (like me D will be food!(mainly dessert)
    3. using rr talon is very very good (highly recommended)
    4. using ff sword is very good too (highly recommended)
    5. always carry full ff sword set (both 1h and 2h)
    6. always carry full rr talon and recurve set
    7. always carry sk bow set and rs hammer set (for regen and dodge)
    8. if u must use bellows and drainers (main troll set )
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    Quote Originally Posted by anahadaz View Post
    If you use bellows you should only use one piece at a time. Unless you want some fun rushing, bellows helm and armour with rr recurve. I used to just rr bow with royal helm and armour, and to tank I would royal plate, fury helm and axe, and bellows shield.
    axe is ugly
    plus ff sword provides more skill dmg
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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    Hmm, I use bellows when I wanna nuke/Half tank
    It's str gear for insane damage
    But I will try some other stuff
    What do you propose?
    i propose
    ff helm
    rs plate
    rr shield/ff shield
    rr talon
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    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    axe is ugly
    plus ff sword provides more skill dmg
    Looks of wepaons dont matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    i propose
    ff helm
    rs plate
    rr shield/ff shield
    rr talon
    So.... Same gear just a different talon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armourslash View Post
    Looks of wepaons dont matter.
    Lol

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