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    Quote Originally Posted by will0 View Post
    buff all arcane pets then ... why so exclusive?
    Because there needs to be a reason for people to aim for "latest and greatest"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madnex View Post
    The buffing is getting out of hand.

    Nekro was never an offensive-focused pet so increasing damage to 15% or critical to 12% is over the top. It is completely irrelevant how much people paid for it due to the broken Vial drop rate when the pet first came out. The problem lies in:
    A)Nekro trying to do everything and failing at it. You can't have damage, crit, banish, panic and shielding and expect it to excel in all.
    B)The shield's damage reduction concept not being very impressive in a game dominated by damage and back-to-back stun combos.

    Suggestion:
    Keep the stats the same but add a 65% chance of a one second invulnerability shield on AA.

    If it is not an offensive-based pet, why not give it the regen that sam provides?

    This thread is all S&S obsessive, but realistically we need to look at the overall game population, which (shockingly) is not just the 0.5% of the players who have that pet. Samael is the standard when it comes to arcane pets, and the reason he is so coveted is largely due to that regen ability. So if Necro had slightly better happiness than Sam and added the same regen ability, we would have a comparable pet.

    To be honest, (addressing Carapace's initial post) the +8 mana regen as proposed is pretty useless for anyone above level 20. Giving Necro a higher happiness bonus along with useful regen like Sam's, would also help balance the penalty of ridiculously slow passive attack speed that these dragon whelps come with, thereby making it worth actually farming for - if the drop rate of fossils is indeed properly in place now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravager View Post
    Because there needs to be a reason for people to aim for "latest and greatest"
    Is there a reason for people to aim their attention at STS "Latest and Greatest" failure, Scorch? Because on this path I don't see a buff nor by 250 plat coming around the mountain any time soon D;

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    awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by SacredKnight View Post
    Is there a reason for people to aim their attention at STS "Latest and Greatest" failure, Scorch? Because on this path I don't see a buff nor by 250 plat coming around the mountain any time soon D;
    Haha I agree but I just wasn't going to repeat what you've said multiple times already.

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    Erm this seem like best place to ask. Where can nekro parchments be farmed? And you need dragon bar and fossil also right? Also fossil obtained from arena and elite dragon gold chests right? Im interested trying farm for nekro is why I ask. I dunno what hes like but his stats and appearance look nice to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veluthe View Post
    Erm this seem like best place to ask. Where can nekro parchments be farmed? And you need dragon bar and fossil also right? Also fossil obtained from arena and elite dragon gold chests right? Im interested trying farm for nekro is why I ask. I dunno what hes like but his stats and appearance look nice to me.
    Make a forum post in the general section and I'll see if I can answer that for you or someone in the forums will.

    I hope the lower cd time will help with the low banish and terror/panic rate of the pet.
    Last edited by Ravager; 01-23-2015 at 07:06 PM.

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    That extra 15% damage on the stats
    Does that only work for warrior and mages inside pvp?
    Because I know rogues when they use damage pets it doesn't stack or work

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    Nekro's normal attack deals a ridiculous low dmg(170 on lvl41 while Samael is 240). Is this intended or bugged? It is even lower than malison; not to mention pet like singe hit as hard as a warrior
    Last edited by kixkaxx; 01-24-2015 at 01:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kixkaxx View Post
    Nekro's normal attack deals a ridiculous low dmg(170 on lvl41 while Samael is 240). Is this intended or bugged? It is even lower than malison; not to mention pet like singe hit as hard as a warrior
    Most pets that hit "multiple" have their dmg divided across. Even if it only hits one, it'll be as if it hits "multiple" and is divided. There are a few pets that hit multiple yet don't follow this rule such as Malison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kixkaxx View Post
    Nekro's normal attack deals a ridiculous low dmg(170 on lvl41 while Samael is 240). Is this intended or bugged? It is even lower than malison; not to mention pet like singe hit as hard as a warrior
    What map are you testing this on? Just curious.

    I am in the process of making a guide to pet attack speeds and actual damage. If you want to compare, here are the numbers from testing on the first 2 mobs of elite reef.

    Test in Elite Reef

    Sam 41

    hits every 1.2 seconds
    236 - 247 per hit + 78 toxin
    35 seconds to kill
    Damages multiple targets



    Singe 41

    hits every 2.2 seconds
    240-287 with 47-50 fire damage
    52 seconds to kill
    Fireball that ignites multiple targets



    Whim 41

    hits every 2.4 seconds
    251-288 + occasional 149 bleed x 8 dots
    0:44 - 1:00 to kill depending on bleeds
    Damages up to 5 targets




    And mythic pets, just for the curious

    Abaddon 41

    hits every 1.2 seconds - seems fast though
    195-235 per hit
    45 seconds to kill
    Damages multiple targets


    Grimm 41

    hits every 1.2 seconds
    199-235 per hit
    55 seconds to kill
    Damages multiple targets


    Scorch 41

    hits every 2.8 seconds
    177 - 211 per hit
    1:45-1:50 to kill
    Damages multiple targets
    Last edited by Serancha; 01-24-2015 at 05:19 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serancha View Post
    What map are you testing this on? Just curious.

    I am in the process of making a guide to pet attack speeds and actual damage. If you want to compare, here are the numbers from testing on the first 2 mobs of elite reef.

    Test in Elite Reef

    Sam 41

    hits every 1.2 seconds
    236 - 247 per hit + 78 toxin
    35 seconds to kill
    Damages multiple targets


    Singe 41

    hits every 2.2 seconds
    240-287 with 47-50 fire damage
    52 seconds to kill
    Fireball that ignites multiple targets



    Whim 41

    hits every 2.4 seconds
    251-288 + occasional 149 bleed x 8 dots
    0:44 - 1:00 to kill depending on bleeds
    Damages up to 5 targets




    And mythic pets, just for the curious

    Abaddon 41

    hits every 1.2 seconds - seems fast though
    195-235 per hit
    45 seconds to kill
    Damages multiple targets


    Grimm 41

    hits every 1.2 seconds
    199-235 per hit
    55 seconds to kill
    Damages multiple targets


    Scorch 41

    hits every 2.8 seconds
    177 - 211 per hit
    1:45-1:50 to kill
    Damages multiple targets
    Considering Samael in my test also hit 240/attack, we should have tested in same standard.
    Last edited by kixkaxx; 01-24-2015 at 07:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravager View Post
    Most pets that hit "multiple" have their dmg divided across. Even if it only hits one, it'll be as if it hits "multiple" and is divided. There are a few pets that hit multiple yet don't follow this rule such as Malison.
    Singe strike 270 per hit with the same fireball. I think Nekro is using Scorch's model that is currently bugged.

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    Add some hp to the pet atleast
    The new pets that's been coming out are all having some sort of hp buff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky View Post
    Add some hp to the pet atleast
    The new pets that's been coming out are all having some sort of hp buff
    Agree

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    Or, if it's a real defense pet, then give us a real immunity not just for SnS pools, but also for stuns/freeze/panic while shielded.

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    Excited for buff, hope its worthwhile and we receive that 15 percent damage n 12 percent crit! And anything else on top of that is a bonus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lethaljade View Post
    Excited for buff, hope its worthwhile and we receive that 15 percent damage n 12 percent crit! And anything else on top of that is a bonus!

    Hey jade does that 15% Damage bonus work on rogues?
    Cos I thought rogues with Damage pet doesn't work :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky View Post
    Hey jade does that 15% Damage bonus work on rogues?
    Cos I thought rogues with Damage pet doesn't work :/
    It doesn't work in pvp for rogues.

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    Thanks for confirming
    Well that pretty much sucks for rogue Nekro users lol

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