Contest Planning: Kalizzaa's Tour of Arlor

**warriorromio** · 01-21-2015, 06:14 AM

Time for hunting...
Nice thrade and event brother..
Will help lota of new level cap player for hunting elites and there aps..
With loot ...
Nice

**Leambow** · 01-21-2015, 09:32 AM

Lets show them how enigmatic does it xD

**FluffNStuff** · 01-21-2015, 11:05 AM

First question, are these intended to be pure runs?
Second question, is there a minimum party size? (Do solo's count?)

That being asked, this is mad sweet, and THANKS!!!!

**Ellysius** · 01-21-2015, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Candylicks

I still can't figure out why the 'Dead City' regular AP won't complete on my rogue. :/

You have to complete some quests.
I had the same problem on my rogue.
To make sure,take every quest that has something to do with Dead City.

**GoodSyntax** · 01-21-2015, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by FluffNStuff

First question, are these intended to be pure runs?
Second question, is there a minimum party size? (Do solo's count?)

That being asked, this is mad sweet, and THANKS!!!!

Pure, Enhanced....doesn't matter. The point is to simply increase elite activity, especially in older maps that no one runs. This way, anyone missing APs can complete them in party.

No minimum party size, and yes, solo is fine.

**Candylicks** · 01-23-2015, 03:21 PM

This is the time to provide feedback to the contest! There are some good prizes coming up and it will be THE PVE Contest to become a part of. I am EXCITED!!!! Kali is doing a good job behind the scenes and is working on getting something REALLY special for all the players who complete all 4 weeks.

**Veluthe** · 01-23-2015, 03:42 PM

Wow seems you have put lot of thought into this kali. Im sure it will be loads of fun! Ill be looking forward to participate, enigmatic lets go!

**GinjaNinja** · 01-23-2015, 09:41 PM

This looks like an awesome event, thanks to all who are working on this for the good planning and description.

I really like how you thought out how to try to make it an event that even under-geared players like me can participate in!

This might be one of the few times that people actually want a warrior in their party because of the double points. Im definately looking forward to it.

P.S. does anyone have an estimate on when it will start

**GoodSyntax** · 01-23-2015, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by GinjaNinja

This looks like an awesome event, thanks to all who are working on this for the good planning and description.

I really like how you thought out how to try to make it an event that even under-geared players like me can participate in!

This might be one of the few times that people actually want a warrior in their party because of the double points. Im definately looking forward to it.

P.S. does anyone have an estimate on when it will start

I hope to start this thing off on February 2nd.

There are still a few things that me and a few others are working on behind the scenes, but at this point, we are very close to completion.

I'll have more details early next week, but for now, assume Feb 2nd.

**UnderAgeKids** · 01-23-2015, 10:25 PM

How about Solo guild? Can participating in this contest?

**GoodSyntax** · 01-23-2015, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by UnderAgeKids

How about Solo guild? Can participating in this contest?

Anyone can participate regardless of guild affiliation. This is a public event, and I hope that it will offer an opportunity for players across guilds to run together.

**Clickbangboom** · 01-23-2015, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by ilhanna

Missed your last contest so I'll be sure to join this time. Apart from winning or losing to guilds with more pro runners, it's all about elite runs so...funfunfun! Can't wait and thanks so much Kali & co. for organizing this.

Im with ya ilhanna! Go Knights!

Im gonna try and run this contest too! Sounds like a fun time and a great way to make friends and maybe learn a few new tricks for eilte running and perhaps make some gold!

**Leambow** · 01-23-2015, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by GoodSyntax

Anyone can participate regardless of guild affiliation. This is a public event, and I hope that it will offer an opportunity for players across guilds to run together.

This event is very awesome I can't wait till it starts XD

**Trueson** · 01-24-2015, 03:34 AM

Amazing....I'm gonna participate to this awesome contest.
Thanks

**Rx8** · 01-24-2015, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Ralchior

Love it! I know Enigmatic is going to be all over this! APs here we come!

Omfg....halp me hit the lvl cap so i can get in and hit this up!
xD

**nicflamel** · 01-24-2015, 09:11 AM

Hello Kalizza,

This is a really great idea for a contest. I love the concept, and I love the goal even more!

I want this event of yours to be a success!

So while it's still in the planning phase, I took some time to show you some loopholes I've noticed.

Here are some Anticipated Problems:

(Let's just assume I have said the weekly catch phrase in the screen shots)

GENERAL RULES:
- The boss must be dead on screen and/or loot visible on screen or chat box.

First: The boss must be dead on the screen

These two screenshots are from one run. The timer does not automatically stop once the boss is killed. This allowed me to take a screenshot before I run to the end of the map to stop the time.
I change the angle a little bit for a second screenshot... now with a different time.
2 points rewarded.
In these two pictures, the potions I have are of the same amount which may attract suspicion, but that could easily be fixed just by running back the map, get some damage and use some mana on mobs that I passed by so I can use up my potions to make the count different.

Second: The loot must be visible on screen or chat box.

These four screenshots are from one run. I've noticed here that the boss disappears almost instantly once killed. So I can only use the loot for my screenshot.
- The first pic: I looted a "Band of Acumen". This was from one of the mobs I killed before killing the boss.
- The second pic: I looted a "Rivet Helmet of Athletics". This is from a chest on the left. The time on my clock is different because, although I have killed the boss, the clock won't stop unless I reach the end of the map.
- The third pic: This is what the boss really dropped during my run. There it is on the floor.
- The fourth pic: Same chest, but this time it's in my chat box. The time on my screen is different so I might get away with it.
Again, the only thing that could draw any suspicion that in these four pics, I have the same potion count, which I can manage to change.

Possible Solution:
- Make a limit for each character: Once a map is finished, he/she can no longer receive points from the same map.
- This will make week one and two easy for one person to finish. The downside is: It will limit the total point possible for some guilds and would give guilds with more members an advantage.
- But then again, why would the members wanna run it if there isn't really anything in it for them? The GM will get hold of the prize anyway.
- So it's going to be up to the GM to build up a strategy; How he would distribute the prize, give incentives or whatnot.
- I'm assuming that a date will be announced at least a week prior to when the game will begin. This will allow guilds to recruit more players to be a part of their team.

These are just things that I've noticed.
And the possible solution is just a suggestion.
All is still up to you to decide.
I just wanted to put it out there.

Good luck with this event!

Am also looking forward to it.

Sincerely,
Nicolas Flamel

**Rx8** · 01-24-2015, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by nicflamel

Hello Kalizza,

This is a really great idea for a contest. I love the concept, and I love the goals even more!

I want this event of yours to be a success!

So while it's still in the planning phase, I took some time to show you some loopholes I've noticed.

Here are some Anticipated Problems:

-Let's just assume I have said the weekly catch phrase in the sceenshots.

GENERAL RULES:
- The boss must be dead on screen and/or loot visible on screen or chat box.

First: The boss must be dead on the screen

These two screenshots are from one run. The timer does not automatically stop once the boss is killed. This allowed me to take a screenshot before I run to the end of the map to stop the time.
I change the angle a little bit for a second screenshot... now with a different time.
2 points rewarded.
In these two pictures, the potions I have are of the same amount which may attract suspicion, but that could easily be fixed just by running back the map, get some damage and use some mana on mobs that I passed by so I can use up my potions to make the count different.

Next: The loot must be visible on screen or chat box.

These four screenshots are from one run. I've noticed here that the boss disappears almost instantly once killed. So I can only use the loot for my screenshot.
The first pic: I looted a "Band of Acumen". This was from one of the mobs I killed before killing the boss.
The second pic: I looted a "Rivet Helmet of Athletics". This is from a chest on the left. The time on my clock is different because, although I have killed the boss, the clock won't stop unless I reach the end of the map.
The third pic: This is what the boss really dropped during my run. There it is on the floor.
The fourth pic: Same chest, but this time it's in my chat box. The time on my screen is different so I might get away with it.
Again, the only thing that could draw any suspicion that in these four pics, I have the same potion count, which I can manage to change.

Possible Solution:
- Make a limit for each character: Once a map is finished, he/she can no longer receive points from the same map.
- This will make week one and two easy for one person to finish. The downside is: It will limit the total point possible for some guilds and would give guilds with more members an advantage.
- But then again, why would the members wanna run it if there isn't really anything in it for them? The GM will get hold of the prize anyway.
- So it's going to be up to the GM to build up a strategy; How he would distribute the prize, give incentives or whatnot.
- I'm assuming that a date will be announced at least a week prior to when the game will begin. This will allow guilds to recruit more players to be a part of their team.

These are just things that I've noticed.
And the possible solution is just a suggestion.
All is still up to you to decide.
I just wanted to put it out there.

Good luck with this event!

Am also looking forward to it.

Sincerely,
Nicolas Flamel

Agreed....make sure that u take a SS before u start. Mid run. End of the run so as to prevent cheating....

**Leambow** · 01-24-2015, 09:44 AM

I never thought of that great job nix for pointing that out

**Kreasadriii** · 01-24-2015, 09:55 AM

Awesome!

**GoodSyntax** · 01-24-2015, 10:02 AM

You're forgetting two important things.

First, there is the secret phrase that must be spoken for the SS to be accepted.

Second, players will be reviewing even more closely than me or anyone that is helping me manage this. On every contest I've held, one had PMs from players reporting 'oddities' which I always followed up on.

The problem with any player based system is that there will be those looking to "game" the system.

If someone is so desperate that they will stoop to cheating in a contest brought forth out of my own goodwill, and they are willing to risk being banned and called out as a cheat, well then, there is very little I can do to stop someone intent on cheating. Obviously, the more cases of fraud, the greater likelihood of being caught.

And, given your screenshots, I would have called you out as a cheater, because I have killed Stabb enough times to know what the loot looks like. All I need is one case of suspicion. The benefit of this being a player hosted event is I can ban anyone I want, with or without concrete proof.

At the end of the day, this is a contest for the masses. I have to trust that those who participate will do so fairly and honorably. And, for those that don't, shame on you for trying to ruin some good clean fun, for what, a few million gold that will end up going to the guildmaster anyway?

Have faith....cheating hasn't really ever been an issue in any of my events, and to be quite honest, I don't expect it to be one here either. Its not like I am giving out arcane items to the winners or anything.