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    Quote Originally Posted by JTZ View Post
    I believe he's referencing the correlation of hit% and dodge. There was a thread over this but I'm too lazy to find it.
    But I'm pretty sure it's more complex than simply subtracting hit by dodge %
     
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    Yes alot more. But in short, more hit = less dodge for the opponent.

    Also, imo & from my experience as 15 bear, 96% hit is the most you need. & ik many that get away with 94%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Etarbitrev View Post
    Yes alot more. But in short, more hit = less dodge for the opponent.

    Also, imo & from my experience as 15 bear, 96% hit is the most you need. & ik many that get away with 94%.
    Wait for that ONE fight, when that ONE stomp misses.

    You shouldn't depend on the luck of not missing that 4-6%, & critical hitting that extra 6-8. Taking into consideration, this hit can also be reduced greatly by all the things I've stated before, I honestly think 100% hit is the smartest thing to do, but it's up to anyone's else preference. - 4-6% hit + 6-8 critical is still QUITE viable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etarbitrev View Post
    Yes alot more. But in short, more hit = less dodge for the opponent.

    Also, imo & from my experience as 15 bear, 96% hit is the most you need. & ik many that get away with 94%.
    If that logic was used, then the whole endgame scene won't make sense. Full dex birds have 180+ hit buffed and bears with str sets have 80dodge-ish. If we used hit-dodge, then full dex birds should, in theory, land all hits
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticLegend97 View Post
    15 Bear:

    Gear:
    L15 Dex Hallo Helm
    L15 Talon
    L15 Expert
    L15 Gruesome Evidence

    Build:
    6 Rage
    5 Stomp
    1 CB
    1 CS
    1 SMS

    Stats:
    Pure Dex
    This is the best build and setup for a L.15 bear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zillionaire View Post
    This is the best build and setup for a L.15 bear
    Not quite. Forgotten Bows are very effective as well, and can beat this setup. CB is also not very smart as the 3m range cripples you, I'd prefer Vengeful Slash as it's more important in Bear V Bear fights due to range.

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    Judging from my own experience as 15 Bear, it is really easy to get away with the setup of:
    Sniper'sHelm
    Pink 15 Talon
    Sniper's Shield
    Experts
    Crit Ring

    I used this because I like to roll cheap :P. Anyways, like Writer stated, if you do go into fight with chars with debuffs, think of it. You've got so many things that can destroy your hit, it's better to get at least 95% hit than have yourself miss that duel crucial stomp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescind View Post
    I mean I have 19crit 98hit with sniper wing using expert. Having higher hit than that is pointless
    I have 105 hit because it makes me feel better about myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescind View Post
    If that logic was used, then the whole endgame scene won't make sense. Full dex birds have 180+ hit buffed and bears with str sets have 80dodge-ish. If we used hit-dodge, then full dex birds should, in theory, land all hits
    So, riddle me this, why do bears at low lvl dodge so much in comparison to endgame bears.
    What you quoted me on, was worked out by one of the smartest minds that played PL imo,
    I'm just telling you the results of his experiment, which, from my experience kinda seems valid.

    Also, the amount of dodge to hit ratio at endgame tries to balance each other out, except there is more dodge in comparison to lower lvls. Please notice that, when a bear hses you at endgame, your hit doesn't go down sub-100 does it? (Yes ik I've read the other thread about hit chance)
    From my experience of endgame the opponent dodges more when I am hsed, referring back to the point about his results seeming valid.
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