I agree 150% killing fury was hard enough now pallys are unstoppable and bears never die
They added sets to Mage with gem blast staff and gemstone and gemstone wand y not gem shard
I agree 150% killing fury was hard enough now pallys are unstoppable and bears never die
They added sets to Mage with gem blast staff and gemstone and gemstone wand y not gem shard
True, but Fury doesn't really increase the ability for paladins to kill though. Maybe overtime, due to being able to spam more skills easilyOriginally Posted by Christina
I thought you were a paladin? Was surprised when I saw you asking for them to be nerfed :P
How do bears not die though? It'd seem they die easier now.
I understand for a pally, that it makes them way tank-ier due to more MS. But for bears, MS doesn't exactly help you survive as compared to the loss of the dodge, hs, and armour.
I was a paladin.. But this game has a problem is that when i wan to build my paladin up.. Devs didnt do anything to the game.. Whem i thought of converting to mage.. Fury armor changed..True, but Fury doesn't really increase the ability for paladins to kill though. Maybe overtime, due to being able to spam more skills easily
I thought you were a paladin? Was surprised when I saw you asking for them to be nerfed :P
This game is always changing lol.. Its like they cant make up their mind.. All of a sudden the nerf pally, den now the make pally strong. And the next min i guess a lvl 1 could kill a lvl 56 lmao!
I do remember you wanting to be a pally only, never realised you decided to change.
I'm confident they will have changes, so my suggestion is just not to make any impulse changes, like switching gear sets. Just wait out and see, maybe you'll even farm a few pieces with luck
Totally agree!!! its the FF set which is overpowered, if a bear wears this set and go PVP, maybe not a big trouble, cuz the dodge and armor were reduced, and 30 points Ms is not really helping a bear out, but image a pally with this holly *** set runing around....... High armor, high dodge, high Hs, even Ms is higher than MM set, OMFG!!!!so whats the point the pure int mage should still exist ???!!!!
And BTW, I really begin to miss the old AO3 days and AO3 items, very well designed, balanced gears!
Last edited by joe8421; 03-04-2011 at 04:50 AM.
I respec'ed to paladin and tried some level 55 pvp last night. It's true that paladins are very hard to kill by any class except birds, but they also have a very hard time killing any tank classes because they don't have enough damage. Here is what I found and bear in mind this was just a few games and I was very tired - more testing to be done today:
Paladin vs another paladin or str bear - fight lasts forever and nobody can kill the other (and I do mean *forever*; our game ended because the other 2 players who were doing their own one-on-one got to 10 kills and we were still not done fighting).
Paladin vs int mage - as I recall paladin had an edge but didn't win all fights; must test more
Paladin vs dex bird - about 50/50
So I don't think paladins are that overpowered. If anything, it's more fair to enchantresses that we now have a chance at killing dex birds. Used to be good birds (the kind who know their range and time their combos just right) would kill me instantly no matter what I did; and when I asked them if ANY int mages did well against them they were like, "nope we pretty much always win out". Now that's unfair in my book. At least now it's an even fight.
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Lol I remember this was true on WoW a paladin duel could take hours. They hit, heal, hit, heal use blessings, use shield and regen wait for shield to end, then hit, heal ect...
And restoration Druids where even worse lol.
With the new fury set what I would try is to have enough str with boosting gear to wear it and have some dex for hit and damage and the rest to int for more effective heals.
This is the setup I would try first it should be like 137 str, 63 dex and 80 int. This should help heals a bit I would still have about 31 mana regen plus healing doesn't have to be to strong since you have 30 h/s and hit should be close to 100 plus more damage. This is more of a pvp setup than pve but it should work for both.
the set should have less m/s maybe 3 per piece and add hit and the 8 dodge it had. IMO though. Or at least buff the other two sets (dex and int).
Last edited by Echelong; 03-04-2011 at 09:13 AM.
I did pvp with my friend dex bird w/ my str bear at time good pink gear at 45 against his 49 I was at half life with him hitting me while I was trying to kill elf queen switched to him killed him quick went back to killing elf queen he left after that
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Kal - its true, I can imagine str to str fights lasting too long. The only way someone could win before is by having better mana regen than the opponent and timing things right. With the new fury set, mana isn't even an issue, especially with bears.
Im curious though as how a pally can now face a bird better? Since the birds would be able to kill you with their range, how does the 30 mana help? Especially since you lose dodge, hs, and armour for that 30 ms. Im guessing it still lies in the perfect timing of mana shield?
I actually used a hybird build with 3 fury items and a wand - so not a pure paladin build. And maybe I shouldn't talk because I just tried some pvp and got owned by some bird I haven't fought before- but at least it was a relatively long fight where I seemed to have a chance at winning.
I did try sword too and I think it would work okay - I just didn't use it much because I didn't have the pink sword. What happens is birds can't one shot you like they do with int mages. So then you have time to get in close and start fighting them, so a sword is not a huge disadvantage. Even with my wand I was fighting very close most of the time.
I was saying paladins do better vs birds compared to how badly int mages fare. I haven't tried paladins before the new items so I can't compare with what they used to be like before. Just from what I heard they weren't even a viable class for pvp at all, and now they are.
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dude, the hit and crit is super low for paladins with fury set right now. we need to make some adjustments also...
i will trade some of my m/s for crit. while good, the set is not godlike as people are making out to be.
if i remember correctly, didn't you used to be a pally? sucks that things changed after you respec'd but that's how it goes in alterra. got to stay on your toes and go with the flow.
Guys, sssssshhhhhh! My paladin needs the stat boost! Fair-shmair.... Hehe
relating back to what kal said....hawkeyi let me borrow his sword to have the full set and as you guys know im a pvper usually a pure mage. but when i was playing yesterday i noticed none of this overpowerness. birds could still combo me, mages could kill me, and bears there fair share. i could tank more than a mage pure but it wasnt a huge differenece. and my damage, and hit % suffered also. many of you guys are over thinking this and just judging by the stats that see, as many of you have not tested he set...let alone in pvp. im just saying, but the new fury set is not as powerful for a pally as you think
Anyway, i don care abt how great pally is. Cos i found a stats that can kill almost all birds.. Regardin pally and pure mages for some.. I still need abit of tuning into it.. Spended 35respec on my current mage..
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