Class balance? Or You are not playing your class right?

[epicrrr]

Most cry for a buff because they keep forgetting the positive side of the class they chose or they are playing it wrong and sorcs and warriors trying to be like rogue etc etc.

Some of my endgame and pvp level 13 friends remind and shows me of how a properly executed gameplay, attitude and class mastery has affected numerous scenario.

It really is a matter of how you choose to play your class. Mage trying to act like rog or warrior trying to be.. and rog to this or that.. will have a disastrous result and only causes frustration while it can be good sometimes but its like looking at a cupcake when it is near a premium grade cake.

[Trollish]

Sorry, but skill can only get you so far. If I were amazing at driving, that doesn't mean I could win a nascar championship driving a used smart-car.

Although, there are a lot out there complaining just for the sake of complaining, so in that sense, your right.

[epicrrr]

The issue here is that rogues are capable of tanking the current elite maps. Moreover, because the mobs are so easy for them, they're just standing in place, attacking and killing the mobs as fast or better than mages. Therefore, there is no need for any other class and we end up with mostly runs of 4 rogues

This is purely circumstantial and vary by guild, circle of friends and personal preference etc, this is where the game have limited control over.

Best way to limit stacking of a certain class will be the introduction of party buffs; where when you get all 3 class in a party the party leader will have to choose 1 of the buff bonus for the certain run/map: 10% damage, 10%exp, 10% speed, 10% armor, 10% mana or 10% hp. This will kinda push people to run and organize party where theres only 2 of the same class.

And the skill update will play a crucial role in future expansions, as the value of stats gets higher endgame stats makes skills overly boosted.

[siddhant]

This is purely circumstantial and vary by guild, circle of friends and personal preference etc, this is where the game have limited control over.

Best way to limit stacking of a certain class will be the introduction of party buffs; where when you get all 3 class in a party the party leader will have to choose 1 of the buff bonus for the certain run/map: 10% damage, 10%exp, 10% speed, 10% armor, 10% mana or 10% hp. This will kinda push people to run and organize party where theres only 2 of the same class.

And the skill update will play a crucial role in future expansions, as the value of stats gets higher endgame stats makes skills overly boosted.

If sumthing like this doesnt happen u will see mages just get extinct in pvp i am already having a hard time thinking of a sub mage in the twink pvp tournament

[Serancha]

The issue here is that rogues are capable of tanking the current elite maps. Moreover, because the mobs are so easy for them, they're just standing in place, attacking and killing the mobs as fast or better than mages. Therefore, there is no need for any other class and we end up with mostly runs of 4 rogues

Rogues are only actually better at killing bosses. Mages can wipe the mobs in any map way faster without even getting damaged. The problem when it comes to timed elite runs is that they cannot match rogues for speed-killing bosses. The extra time mages need to kill a boss is greater than the time they gain in the mob department, which is where people get the idea that rogues are "better". Ultimately they are not single-target hitters, so they fail at the end of the run.

[Eski]

Rogues are only actually better at killing bosses. Mages can wipe the mobs in any map way faster without even getting damaged. The problem when it comes to timed elite runs is that they cannot match rogues for speed-killing bosses. The extra time mages need to kill a boss is greater than the time they gain in the mob department, which is where people get the idea that rogues are "better". Ultimately they are not single-target hitters, so they fail at the end of the run.

Rogues kill faster.. no matter mobs or bosses..

[Dex Scene]

Rogues kill faster.. no matter mobs or bosses..

Mages have aoe which make them able to clear mobs faster.
mages are the king of clearing mobs. They do it faster than any class.

[nevercan]

Mages have aoe which make them able to clear mobs faster.
mages are the king of clearing mobs. They do it faster than any class.

Maps with hard mobs a long map but not many mobs in a place? Thats with 4 rouges olmost the same idea as killing a bos much faster then 1-2 mages in the team.

[Bellaelda]

Mages have aoe which make them able to clear mobs faster.
mages are the king of clearing mobs. They do it faster than any class.

Check out timed lbs... Sry but rogues rule them all

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Check out timed lbs... Sry but rogues rule them all

Timed lb proves nothing as maps have bosses. And rogues kill them faster.
If you read correctly what I replied whom I replied, you see I said mages clear mobs faster.. i have mythic weapon on my rogue and i clear wt4 or mines faster with my expe gun mage...

[Serancha]

Rogues kill faster.. no matter mobs or bosses..

I play both and have tested extensively. I stand by my statement.

[Midievalmodel]

I play both and have tested extensively. I stand by my statement.

I agree with you Mages kill mobs faster than rogues, its clear. The issue here is that the majority of maps that are ran nowadays are the new tombs and arena. The mob density and amount of mobs you have to clear in these maps are not that high. Add to the fact that these new map bosses have insane HP and you spend a significant amount of time fighting them.....Therefore full rogue parties or 3 rogue party with one mage is still preferred. Which makes the need for rogues 70 to 100 percent of the time for party make up. Warriors in PVE....well forget about it.

[Transfordark]

What more do you rogues want? Your the strongest class in AL and still blame us for not being strong or not being able to handle our class.

[siddhant]

What more do you rogues want? Your the strongest class in AL and still blame us for not being strong or not being able to handle our class.

This

[epicrrr]

What more do you rogues want? Your the strongest class in AL and still blame us for not being strong or not being able to handle our class.

The thread was very far from blaming - where did that came from? Its to point out that character class has their role to play and to put it simply giving warrior and sorc that 250% crit damage an +10% crit chance each attack(aimshot) is not the answer to all balance whine; maybe the skill update weve been waiting will change all that.

[nevercan]

1 shot mages is clas balance

Thats new to me.

[epicrrr]

Maybe it's because people don't play the game right. I mean if people actually played Capture the Flag, mages would love the way things are. But apparently STS doesn't want people playing CTF because of the LB and AP's.

Maybe this might encourage player.

But to play captured the flag as in get flag and try to score while the opposing team will do the same has to start somewhere, I reckon spot blocking came from low level pvp then moved their way to the top. So a movement has to start somewhere, like a domino effect with a huge chace from endgame -> low level brackets.

1 shot mages is clas balance

Thats new to me.

Honestly speaking what if STS put a skill like aimshot to sorcs and warrior; would that make you feel that theres class balance?

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All this class balance rally is from that skill aimshot.

[nevercan]

Maybe this might encourage player.

But to play captured the flag as in get flag and try to score while the opposing team will do the same has to start somewhere, I reckon spot blocking came from low level pvp then moved their way to the top. So a movement has to start somewhere, like a domino effect with a huge chace from endgame -> low level brackets.



Honestly speaking what if STS put a skill like aimshot to sorcs and warrior; would that make you feel that theres class balance?

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All this class balance rally is from that skill aimshot.

I never sed mages and tanks shoud get aimedshot
Just nerf rouges crit on endlvl,armor and hp.

[Dex Scene]

1 shot mages is clas balance

Thats new to me.

Rogue can one shot rogues. Rogues cant one shot shield mages.
Although I do believe mages need a slight buff but mages are not weak.

[Item]

Most cry for a buff because they keep forgetting the positive side of the class they chose or they are playing it wrong and sorcs and warriors trying to be like rogue etc etc.

Some of my endgame and pvp level 13 friends remind and shows me of how a properly executed gameplay, attitude and class mastery has affected numerous scenario.

It really is a matter of how you choose to play your class. Mage trying to act like rog or warrior trying to be.. and rog to this or that.. will have a disastrous result and only causes frustration while it can be good sometimes but its like looking at a cupcake when it is near a premium grade cake.

Hahaha, your a level 13 rogue with max gear.

I suggest you take a warrior and mage to 41 and certain twink brackets, especially mage.

But Yeh, it's skill...mage can own a rogue in Pvp easy if they use 5skills or go all out damage.
Warrior needs to stun rogues to stand a chance...