Upcoming Change to Skills: Global Cool-Down

**WhoIsThis** · 03-09-2011, 07:19 PM

I strongly dislike this idea as well. It won't make the game any more interesting, just a longer grind. I think that if the game needs to be made harder (which the Sewers level does), it should be with tougher opponents (ex: more hp).

It may work on PvP, but again, I strongly disagree with applying this to PvE. PvP games should have the option of setting this mode either on or off.

Edit:

Client performance should not be an issue. With each generation of phone getting substantially faster (new phones this year come with ARM Cortex A9 Processors), I highly doubt that this will be a serious problem in a year or so. In any event, I'd imagine that the majority of the demographic that plays this game is "tech-savvy".

**thugimmortal** · 03-09-2011, 07:20 PM

Now bears will totally suck
we want something to speed up our killing not slow us down even more

**Sigkill** · 03-09-2011, 07:21 PM

Sigkill doesnt like this idea

**icantgetkills** · 03-09-2011, 07:21 PM

looks very good

as long as there isnt like a 10 second time in between XD
i think that this is be very good for PVP maybe not so much PvE as it will be hard to defeat mobs and bosses without the ability for fast combo

**KingFu** · 03-09-2011, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by supersteak

Sigkill doesnt like this idea

Mysticaldream doesn't care

**Physiologic** · 03-09-2011, 07:24 PM

The only way to combat the slowness of a global cool-down in PvE is to INCREASE skill damage for all classes - especially bears, since they will suffer way too much.

Comboing is easy to fix, just increase the time for a combo to connect. I believe the maximum time in-between skills for a combo is ~2 seconds. Just increase it to 3-4 seconds or something

**noobmigo** · 03-09-2011, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by thugimmortal

Now bears will totally suck
we want something to speed up our killing not slow us down even more

Yup, if it is my option (C), I'm gonna cry, cry, and play on my bird for the rest of my life.
It seems like the bird is the only one that is barely affected by this, but who knows?

**Moogerfooger** · 03-09-2011, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Physiologic

Comboing is easy to fix, just increase the time for a combo to connect. I believe the maximum time in-between skills for a combo is ~2 seconds. Just increase it to 3-4 seconds or something

Yeah, that's gonna be exciting.

*Tap Shattering Scream*

*Take a nap*

*Eat dinner*

*Watch the news*

*Examine one's toenails*

*Hit Blast Shot*

Sorry homephys, transparent attempt to extend gameplay by reducing it to a painful crawl via a fairly radical mechanics redesign.

**Physiologic** · 03-09-2011, 07:35 PM

Extending time-to-finish-combo is the only thing I can think of that'll go hand-in-hand with global cool-downs, it's an easy fix but one I am not too particularly fond of.

**noobmigo** · 03-09-2011, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Physiologic

Extending time-to-finish-combo is the only thing I can think of that'll go hand-in-hand with global cool-downs, it's an easy fix but one I am not too particularly fond of.

*puts thinking cap on*

**Junside** · 03-09-2011, 08:06 PM

Is this implemented in any other MMO PVP faction?

Why do I feel like this will only hurt birds? Especially if the global cooldown duration is the same for all classes. Mages and Bears don't really need to use their skills as fast as possible.

**Moogerfooger** · 03-09-2011, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Junside

Mages and Bears don't really need to use their skills as fast as possible.

Get ready to be politely flamed by some mages on here who do use their skills as fast as possible

**Junside** · 03-09-2011, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Moogerfooger

Get ready to be politely flamed by some mages on here who do use their skills as fast as possible

Well, don't you need to pause before pulling off a combo? I don't have to do that with my bird.

**KingFu** · 03-09-2011, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Junside

Is this implemented in any other MMO PVP faction?

Why do I feel like this will only hurt birds? Especially if the global cooldown duration is the same for all classes. Mages and Bears don't really need to use their skills as fast as possible.

I disagree, with mages, don't they need to heal every chance they get for AoE bosses like Bandit queen as well as deal damage? I know when i go in, i heal my teqm as much as they need it, on top of debuffing, waiting for it to take effect, then set up as many combos as I can. As for warrior, I always use beckon them together, use hell scream, then stomp to group them together stunned, and set up the smash combo for damage. I'm not one of those people that just goes crazy and spams random skills, but on some occasions it is needed to use skills in a certain order in a time frame to keep the game smooth.

**Moogerfooger** · 03-09-2011, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Junside

Well, don't you need to pause before pulling off a combo? I don't have to do that with my bird.

That wasn't my point and I wasn't talking about combos specifically. Your assertion that mages don't need to use their skills as fast as possible is....up for debate, and I'm sure some of the better mages will chime in.

Edit: ^^^ see? Mage chimes in.

**WhoIsThis** · 03-09-2011, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Junside

Is this implemented in any other MMO PVP faction?

Why do I feel like this will only hurt birds? Especially if the global cooldown duration is the same for all classes. Mages and Bears don't really need to use their skills as fast as possible.

On the contrary, int mages desperately need to do exactly that - spam like hell.

It's a race against the clock to see if our spells can kill the target faster or if they can kill us. Spamming is essential. We don't have any more hp than from Forest Haven. Neither do pure dex birds.

**Conradin** · 03-09-2011, 08:18 PM

Pvp will be seriously different.

**Junside** · 03-09-2011, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Mysticaldream

I disagree, with mages, don't they need to heal every chance they get for AoE bosses like Bandit queen as well as deal damage? I know when i go in, i heal my teqm as much as they need it, on top of debuffing, waiting for it to take effect, then set up as many combos as I can. As for warrior, I always use beckon them together, use hell scream, then stomp to group them together stunned, and set up the smash combo for damage. I'm not one of those people that just goes crazy and spams random skills, but on some occasions it is needed to use skills in a certain order in a time frame to keep the game smooth.

Originally Posted by Moogerfooger

That wasn't my point and I wasn't talking about combos specifically. Your assertion that mages don't need to use their skills as fast as possible is....up for debate, and I'm sure some of the better mages will chime in.

Edit: ^^^ see? Mage chimes in.

I still feel it will hurt birds the most, if anything. But I do see the points you guys brought up.

**KingFu** · 03-09-2011, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Junside

I still feel it will hurt birds the most, if anything. But I do see the points you guys brought up.

I agree archers may take the biggest hit since they are a DPS based class, and it may be difficult for them to set up the Cruel Blast combo, but I think all classes will take a hit of some sort.

**Vallist** · 03-09-2011, 08:29 PM

how about we do this for pvp but not for pve

this only sounds fair on pvp to me not pve, pve is all skill unleashed

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