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    Default Warrior's Hellscream Strong or Wrong

    Hello there Pocket Legends community.
    Today I am going to discuss about the most overpowered skill the class, Warrior, obtains.
    Hellscream!


    Ok, so what we already know is that Hellscream is a skill obtained by the Warrior class (Ursan)
    Hellscream is a skill that decreases Hit rate and Damage and also has a chance to stun.
    But let's look at Hellscream at level 6. The level most bears put it up to.
    Hellscream at level 6, when used on an enemy reduces Hit Rate by -30% and reduces damage by -30.

    Now to most people this doesn't look to be overpowered but it actually is.

    My studies show that when affected by hellscream the target is said to not hit often and when attacks do hit they are often dealing damage around 1-30

    E.G:
    You are playing PvP and a bear (Any bear you can imagine) wants to have a fight with you. You accept the request and you go on to fight. You switch to your set that gives you more Hit Chance, you have 102% Hit. You are able to hit every attack and it wont miss. During the fight the bear uses Hellscream thus reducing your hitrate to 72% which is below a Level 20 Str/Int Rhino. You see that you're not hitting and not dealing much damage either so you retreat but it's too late and that bear uses beckon, and then finishes you with stomp thus giving you a +1 Death in PvP

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    There is also another massive problem.
    Bear start using Crushing Blow in their builds which reduces Damage and Dodge. And you though Hellscream was bad enough.
    The thing is Hellscream is 8 meters while Crushing Blow is 3 meters and Hellscream can hit from the distance of 10 meters.
    It's 100% crap if you tell me.
    Mages and Rhinos have an advantage against bears. They are able to heal off hellscream. But get debuffed by Crushing Blow moments later.
    I think Bear is just too overpowered. The top class to use at PvP levels 15-30.
    But don't get me started on other classes too.
    Sometimes I think. Which Game is more Unbalanced? Arcane Legends or Pocket Legends.
    Leave your opinion below!

    And I will see you soon!

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    well at l30 shiv mages are wayyyy more op and played way more than shiv behrs, and second thing behrs dont have hellscream at l15 i do agree that behrs start to get op at l51+


    on another note even if it -30 hit and damage mages have heal rhinos have heal foxes have a hit buff and birds also have hit buff.
    i think cb is way more op -50 or somthing damage is crazy and - like 20 dodge? not sure AND it cannot be healed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oeskaiab View Post
    well at l30 shiv mages are wayyyy more op and played way more than shiv behrs, and second thing behrs dont have hellscream at l15 i do agree that behrs start to get op at l51+


    on another note even if it -30 hit and damage mages have heal rhinos have heal foxes have a hit buff and birds also have hit buff.
    i think cb is way more op -50 or somthing damage is crazy and - like 20 dodge? not sure AND it cannot be healed.
    level 9 cb gives -40 dodge and -80 damage and hellscream is -60 damage and -60% hit. With the op dodge and cripple. You can't really escape a bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Befs View Post
    level 9 cb gives -40 dodge and -80 damage and hellscream is -60 damage and -60% hit. With the op dodge and cripple. You can't really escape a bear.

    UNNNNLESSS...

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    or play l51 where behrs only beck stomp sms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Befs View Post
    level 9 cb gives -40 dodge and -80 damage and hellscream is -60 damage and -60% hit. With the op dodge and cripple. You can't really escape a bear.

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    Ohh boy why can't you understand its a skill plus bears were specially designed for pvp....

    And if u don't want hs beckon stomp, we ask three skills too, weakness light and fire. deal?
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    <<<===MY OPINION===»»»
    I have seen that there are like 25 new bears every day. I'm not saying this is bad, but the thing is playing as hybrid and only using beck stomp on birds or int mages. Mostly bears nowdays are (sorry bears byt its my opinion) newbies. Like srsly mages are for int,birds dex, bears str, so then you see untradicional player (like pally or warbird) its same as bear using dex gear or hybrid. And yes, using bear at 30-35 is a real challenge 'cause you can't maximaze you do dge buffs or slashes etc. This is only my opinion, no offense for bears

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glall View Post
    <<<===MY OPINION===»»»
    I have seen that there are like 25 new bears every day. I'm not saying this is bad, but the thing is playing as hybrid and only using beck stomp on birds or int mages. Mostly bears nowdays are (sorry bears byt its my opinion) newbies. Like srsly mages are for int,birds dex, bears str, so then you see untradicional player (like pally or warbird) its same as bear using dex gear or hybrid. And yes, using bear at 30-35 is a real challenge 'cause you can't maximaze you do dge buffs or slashes etc. This is only my opinion, no offense for bears
    Well the hybrid bears are of coarse huntd and insulted by even their own type, bears. but if we pay attention, you can see at 25 bears joining everyday are also choing dex. if you were a bear then you would first take a str set then move up to dex. it's my opinion because i am str bear too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingshahzeb View Post
    Well the hybrid bears are of coarse huntd and insulted by even their own type, bears.
    Sure they insult coz they are seeing that nab bear takes hybrid for bird or mage
    but if we pay attention, you can see at 25 bears joining everyday are also choing dex.
    But not going as hybrid
    if you were a bear then you would first take a str set then move up to dex.
    Sure I have bear. Had 22lvl bear with 3rd best build.
    it's my opinion because i am str bear too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingshahzeb View Post
    Ohh boy why can't you understand its a skill plus bears were specially designed for pvp....

    And if u don't want hs beckon stomp, we ask three skills too, weakness light and fire. deal?
    Pretty sure all the classes were pve based except rhino (ctf), it's nightmare not weakness nightmare lowered armor, weakness lowers damage, even so there to little chance to make that happen, at 51 Mages could have a chance to kill other Mages with drain light fire. And if so please explain how using 1. Rage 2. Beckon 3. Stomp 4. SMS takes skill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oeskaiab View Post
    Pretty sure all the classes were pve based except rhino (ctf), it's nightmare not weakness nightmare lowered armor, weakness lowers damage, even so there to little chance to make that happen, at 51 Mages could have a chance to kill other Mages with drain light fire. And if so please explain how using 1. Rage 2. Beckon 3. Stomp 4. SMS takes skill
    Am just talking about end level. i have no idea below 76.... Sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glall View Post
    You dont say :9
    You can even confirm i am wearing savage in pvps............
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    Lol bears these days.
    Too sexy, for signature

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    Lol PL these days
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    Lol 51s these days
    Too sexy, for signature

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glall View Post
    Lol 51s these days
    How u know I play l51?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oeskaiab View Post
    How u know I play l51?
    First, your signature shows it.
    Second I don't pvp only end game
    Too sexy, for signature

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glall View Post
    Lol bears these days.
    Lol int mages these days who cries much
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glall View Post
    First, your signature shows it.
    Second I don't pvp only end game
    Ah they could be l55 or l53 chars or they could be other levels wearing l51 gear
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