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    Default my opinion on dodge

    why can bears and birds dodge like crazy and still do the same damage as a mage also I notice birds have 205 defence but the skills of mage still does same damage as if it was a bear with 328 defence does this even make sense add more hit a lot to mage lust gear or Nerf dodge cause skill isn't dodgeing everything or simply reduce cooldiwns of mages skills
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    May i say that mages can have more than 300 armour with fiery wand set while not being str? Just put 9 ms and 9 buffs
    Mages don't need dodge they got heal and very high damage and kiting skills


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    ya a buff outed out mage loses out on damage then either way its a lose AMD what does damage matter if your appointiwnt just dodges they need more hit

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    Mages don't need dodge, but dodge has gotten out of hand for the bears, and the birdies can keep dodge as they don't have high armor heal or large hp pool
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny6880 View Post
    ya a buff outed out mage loses out on damage then either way its a lose AMD what does damage matter if your appointiwnt just dodges they need more hit
    I don't think hit% neutralizes dodge% because if you would have a fox with 9 fury (adds 90% hit) and it has a lustrous dex dagger set so like + - 300% hit and the fox is trying to kill the bear, the bear will dodge either way


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    I can't begin to put words on this argument.

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    God some of you just make me feel worse than I am
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    My bird has 70 dodge, 310 armor and 715 health while rocking 380 damage and 530dps.
    Sounds OP right? Well it isnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoopeo View Post
    My bird has 70 dodge, 310 armor and 715 health while rocking 380 damage and 530dps.
    Sounds OP right? Well it isnt.

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    Nono its the hit% that causes me to not be op. Mages birds and bears all have blinding debuff that makes any str based useless.
    I have 70% change to dodge the debuff but its always spammable so bears get a new change soon.
    Problem with bears is the debuff, not dodge or armor. They debuff so hard, you cant do anything before mage heals or birds just have to wait it wear off.
    Bears dont do that much damage really, i can tank those for ages and with 9 heal even pure dex bow bird can survive beckon stomp.
    But the debuffs of bear take something like -60 dodge, -200damage and -160% hit when all fully stacked.
    Thats basically a full stun with 3s cooldown and lasts longer than the cooldown so its so hard to escape.

    And did I mention cripple cant be broken like HS or stomp? And cripple lasts like 2.5s and has 3s cooldown or something anyways theres like 0.5s window to try and run away or get distance.

    Thats why bears are so op

    Pallys arent op either, they lack damage and birds can burst them down. Its just different type mage, int mages are equally as hard to face as bird because you need blast twice and make sure blind hits right after heal and so on, plus on top of that mages drain 400dmg and fire does like 350 crits.

    Its the bear debuffs trust me

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    just fix the dodge it be nice to actually hit someone cause dodgeing every skill isn't right or fix hit

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny6880 View Post
    just fix the dodge it be nice to actually hit someone cause dodgeing every skill isn't right or fix hit
    If you are a pure int fiery mage, you can kill savage bears with ease if skilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosstinytitan View Post
    If you are a pure int fiery mage, you can kill savage bears with ease if skilled.
    Ya dud trust him he PvP expert^

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosstinytitan View Post
    If you are a pure int fiery mage, you can kill savage bears with ease if skilled.
    Ugh........


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    Quote Originally Posted by bosstinytitan View Post
    If you are a pure int fiery mage, you can kill savage bears with ease if skilled.
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    Skilled fiery mage vs a target that cannot be hit but can kill u with two hits... Yeah. Right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draoscao View Post
    I don't think hit% neutralizes dodge% because if you would have a fox with 9 fury (adds 90% hit) and it has a lustrous dex dagger set so like + - 300% hit and the fox is trying to kill the bear, the bear will dodge either way
    Try to remind the meaning of "%", you'll be able to answer this by yourself then probably?

    @op I think ur confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingFu View Post
    Ya dud trust him he PvP expert^
    I agree

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    There are plenty of good l75 fiery mages that I have seen demolish bears. As for me, well...I don't do mage pvp, only bird

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