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    Default No one wana party with tanks in elite and arena

    I notice no one want to party with Tank and Elite runs.

    So Tanks are only useful in PVP now, if no one want to farm with tank how will tanks get geared?
    Also i notice a lot of great tanks made a rouge or mage account for farming.
    What will happen if tanks will change class to rouge LOL...

    STS need to balance this, Make sure in all runs they need a tanks! Double or triple the damage of elite bosses that only tanks survive in its Special skills or something. in this care they will need a tank so boss wont reset back to full HP.

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    I've run random entry to planar arena map yesterday using my sorc... all I can find is tank with no party (even with high dmg), some sorc, and hardly find rogue. Finally end up exit the map because too many tank. Rogue is full booked I guess... lol.
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    Yes .. Ice s right . I HV also noticed .. No one wanna need warrio in arena or elite maps .so plz sts replay to this useful post

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    Sts did mention more class balance on expansion . On the other hand I have no idea why they though this event was good idea . It is good idea but only handful of ppl can benefit from this .

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    Rogue have decent armor, good heal skill, good support skill and massive damage. All in one package. Hope STS will soon realize that arcane legends is becoming rogue legends. Who needs a tank and a mage if rogue have it all right? Better make a rogue, because I really do not expect much because rogue being OP was an an issue for a long time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado View Post
    Who needs a tank and a mage if rogue have it all right?
    Had the wolf guy + spiders in arena yesterday. Two mages + two rogues.

    I needed a tank. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvaen View Post
    Had the wolf guy + spiders in arena yesterday. Two mages + two rogues.

    I needed a tank. Lol.
    Depends on your gear and strategy. Even if you have a tank if under geared, then you will die. Fully geared will always run the dungeon as fast as possible and really will not require a tank because of ankhs. The faster the run the more loots and who do not want that? Yes it consumes more but also produce a lot more. Who needs a protector if it will just slow them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice View Post
    I notice no one want to party with Tank and Elite runs.

    So Tanks are only useful in PVP now, if no one want to farm with tank how will tanks get geared?
    Also i notice a lot of great tanks made a rouge or mage account for farming.
    What will happen if tanks will change class to rouge LOL...

    STS need to balance this, Make sure in all runs they need a tanks! Double or triple the damage of elite bosses that only tanks survive in its Special skills or something. in this care they will need a tank so boss wont reset back to full HP.
    I don`t know how many threads we will open until STS change something in this case. In Elite Tombs, Arena ... tanks get onehited by a boss but the rouge still stay there. Tanks need a skill or something like that ... so we can't onehited in boss-fights, elite and arena and get a "USE". Cause this must be our strength! I really think with the class-balance nothing will changed and they don't know what the "real" problem is. And yeah ... in pvp tanks are sometimes needed but thats really the only "USE" for us. As a legendary tank like me you can forget everything and its getting boring. I mean i spend a lot of f***ing money but I´m still a poor nab(so its pissed me more of), which can't do anything in this game cause no one wanna play with you (like me as a legendary tank). The whole game based on luck ... i farmed hard and saw other people looting the best gear but when i still get nothing for spending money, hard farming where is the sense? Other people r standing in city and try to merch the whole day ... or waiting for invites like the most sad tanks or normal geared people. Something musst changed "now" cause the system of the game is really really freaky ;-). Just my feelings so i don`t wanna discuss about something !

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    If you can't find an arena party, you're in the wrong guild then. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't karma/horror a guild for PvP? Zeus posted a good tip in one of the threads, I suggest you go look it up. Also, the reason many don't want tanks is because they get one hitted anyways, won't really make a difference. Bloodhammer=1hit, glob red zone=1hit, frostir sometimes=1hit, glob charge 1hit, lol... Ferrix=too many attacks+pools..
    Personally I don't mind playing with tanks, so long as its not more than one in the party, or else it will just become too slow, and prox circle is gg

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    Or just more hps than they already have, since they do not dodge well. If tanks can stay alive and hold aggro, they'd be much more valuable. Better still if they can buff a team to kill faster or have amazing mob debuffs, they'd be invaluable.

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    Made a topic with suggestions on how to improve warriors in PVE a while back but it doesn't seem STS want to go ahead with any significant changes for now. You can go support it if you want though, never know.

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    An arena run is approximately 1:30 slower with a maxed warrior and 3 rogues, than it is with 4 rogues given equal bosses and effects. With a mage AND a warrrior (both geared) with 2 rogues, that time increase is 2-2:30 slower than with 4 rogues. So instead of 3:30, we're looking at an average of 5-6 minutes, (or slower if the warrior has bulwark, or the warrior and mage are not fully geared).

    I'm not classist, some of my best friends are fatties and smurfs, but when it comes to efficiency, nothing tops 4 rogues.
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    Yesterday I was wanting to run arena but no one wanted to run cuz I'm a warr. We warr need to be loved to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice View Post
    I notice no one want to party with Tank and Elite runs.

    So Tanks are only useful in PVP now, if no one want to farm with tank how will tanks get geared?
    Also i notice a lot of great tanks made a rouge or mage account for farming.
    What will happen if tanks will change class to rouge LOL...

    STS need to balance this, Make sure in all runs they need a tanks! Double or triple the damage of elite bosses that only tanks survive in its Special skills or something. in this care they will need a tank so boss wont reset back to full HP.
    So true...people are greedy...very much..if you know what i mean bro..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serancha View Post
    An arena run is approximately 1:30 slower with a maxed warrior and 3 rogues, than it is with 4 rogues given equal bosses and effects. With a mage AND a warrrior (both geared) with 2 rogues, that time increase is 2-2:30 slower than with 4 rogues. So instead of 3:30, we're looking at an average of 5-6 minutes, (or slower if the warrior has bulwark, or the warrior and mage are not fully geared).

    I'm not classist, some of my best friends are fatties and smurfs, but when it comes to efficiency, nothing tops 4 rogues.
    the times are correct based on my experience (on tank and rogue).
    and the sad truth is, the longer the runs take, the more pots and ankhs the party has to use. it gets bad if the party fails to kill bosses before they enrage.
    i run a lot with mixed parties on my tank and enjoy it, but on my rogue in a full rogue party we did a 4 min run today without sweat. the only death was me, because i m used to tank glob...
    i recorded the run to document what s going wrong here: it s not only faster, it s also easier and cheaper (ofc also a bit boring from a tank perspective). i m looking for a way to cut and post it.

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    Yes, that's the thing.

    The longer a party takes to kill:

    • the more red zones you need to dodge
    • the more likely bosses are to enrage
    • more mushrooms explode per boss
    • ferrix drops several tons more acid
    • all of the above mean more deaths

    Nobody likes more death because it gets expensive, slows you down further, and just isn't fun. So when you could kill a boss in 30-35 seconds, choosing to kill it in double that time just isn't logical. It's not greed, it's time management. That being said, I do run with warriors and mages, but if I have invites from 2 parties at the same time - one mixed class and one of all rogues - I will usually pick the rogues.

    Putting stun and block windup back on Chest Splitter the way they originally were would solve a lot of these extra death issues. However, until some way is made to make it equally or more efficient to mix classes, rogue parties are going to be the most efficient for PvE.
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    The reason is because top geared rogues have about 5k+ health and ~1,600 armor, so most of them are able to tank fairly well, with the addition of 800-900 damage, which is double that of a top-geared warrior. So basically, if you have a warrior and you intend on running mainly PvE, you should probably delete it and make a rogue. STS has made the warrior class practically useless.

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