character balance ( MAGEs)

[VenomsChaos]

lol i am just doing this thread because all i am seeing warriors saying its hard to find pt for warriors..

What about mages?

warior have skills buffs for the safe party. yes they are hard to find a pt but lets talk about mages.

mages have 1000 armor, %5 dodge, low damage, low defance.. no skills for safe party...

So mages really wery hard to find party to.

maybe add some better buffs to warrior and mage skills only work on bosses. thats will be enough for balances. (maybe a buff break boss armor %20)

i am not a pvp mage, my skill buffs on boss idea only for pve balance.

BTW tomorrow i ll pop up 225 old chest, 75+ new chest. lets see this time lucky will be smile to me or not

gn= RageOfVenom

not in game, bored after searched a party 2 hour or more. tired on random party searchs all are mages + warriors on random partys.

[Alhuntrazeck]

Apparently STS only knows how to buff in both PvE & PvP (case in point: the warrior buff which really did not help warriors in PvE but made them OP (again...) in PvP).

[Dex Scene]

Wow mages!!
You guys have great damage!!
The shield is a great defense!!
Iam now tired of seeing never ending demands of these mages!!

[CheifR]

My God you know what just give mages really thick unbreakable armor and give warriors aimed shot. I'm tired of all these "buff this nerf that" then it's" oh they got buffed why is the all about them now" most the complaints are just ridiculous things or small things that sts implemented to balance the pros of the class. Mages get pts like crazy so this is either you or your guild. I'm sorry but one day I'd like to come into the forums and not read the same repetitive stuff

[VenomsChaos]

Dex Scene= do you have a mage you are playing on arena?

mage damages only hight at numbers. if you play on a mage in arena or t3 boss, you will know what i mean.

Chaifr= Mage armor not working well as you though. mages get pts crazy?


For both of you. if mage have a hight damage why its takes years to kill a boss with full mage war party?

for the give you idea about mages

if i dont have a shield. 1 mushroom takes like my %75-80 of heal.

if i have sheild 2 mushroom still kills me.

if i dont have shield, arena mage boss killing me 1 hit with hes normal atack.

ferrix red circle atack kill me 1 hit its doesnt matter if i have shield, i ll still die.

my gears= wild talisman, Frost bow, mythic ring, mythic arm helm with para. sure i did 200+ time tomb run,

sure i did 600+ time new arena run.

thats my experiences. play with a mage and share me your experience i would like to see.

You both sound seems like my 1 friend who keep says "mage in the tomb3 should heal mana is best way to help party" person never played mage but can tell how i should play ( my main chars allways mage because they are funy. playing more than 1 year only with mage )

tell me how many time you run arena on a mage? do you allready have a mage? lol

Edit: also lets dont forget it, why there no mages doing pvp? if the mage have a great sheild and hight damage?

Mages great at mobs, Weak on bosses.

A legendary mage cant do anything in arena + tomb boss,
a legendary warrior still doing good on t3 or arena.
a legendary rogue doing good on t3 or arena.

[VenomsChaos]

My God you know what just give mages really thick unbreakable armor and give warriors aimed shot. I'm tired of all these "buff this nerf that" then it's" oh they got buffed why is the all about them now" most the complaints are just ridiculous things or small things that sts implemented to balance the pros of the class. Mages get pts like crazy so this is either you or your guild. I'm sorry but one day I'd like to come into the forums and not read the same repetitive stuff

if you see repetitive stuffs from mage perspective, its mean there something wrong on mages.

I have other classes to. I have warior and rogue to. do you have a mage? pls post your mage and rogue ss I would like to see your statue - kill die count

[JohnnyHardcore]

Hi! 41 mythic geared mage here. This us just screeeaming to be addressed.

Dex Scene= do you have a mage you are playing on arena?
Yyyup.

mage damages only hight at numbers. if you play on a mage in arena or t3 boss, you will know what i mean.
Mmmm nope. Not at all. Mages excel in large numbers, we have better skills for that specifically. But are still given plenty of focus damage as well. Ice, lightning, and fire/curse with shield is a great boss setup. Drop curse, drop nukes, drop shield, spam pots and nukes. With your gear, your damage output shouldn't be far below rogues or you're doing it wrong...

Chaifr= Mage armor not working well as you though. mages get pts crazy?


For both of you. if mage have a hight damage why its takes years to kill a boss with full mage war party?
Two mages and two wars are actually a decent setup IF three or more of four are geared. Time your nukes and taunts together and shields with dots between heals.

for the give you idea about mages

if i dont have a shield. 1 mushroom takes like my %75-80 of heal.
True.
if i have sheild 2 mushroom still kills me.
You're doing it wrong, work on your timing and placement. You're a range damage. Mushrooms , hit the right wall and don't move. Pull boss over and time attacks with party members to keep them there.

if i dont have shield, arena mage boss killing me 1 hit with hes normal atack.
True. But unless under very certain circumstances that don't occur often there's no reason not to move against him. So why the eff are you that close to him without shield? Pay attention. Move. This is end game farming as a mage. Not a brackebridge run.

ferrix red circle atack kill me 1 hit its doesnt matter if i have shield, i ll still die.
Doing it wrong. Timing. Kills you? Time move, hold shield, pop before impact for invincibility. Oorrr... Get out of the red circle. It's not.hard before the move procs....

my gears= wild talisman, Frost bow, mythic ring, mythic arm helm with para. sure i did 200+ time tomb run,

sure i did 600+ time new arena run.

thats my experiences. play with a mage and share me your experience i would like to see.

You both sound seems like my 1 friend who keep says "mage in the tomb3 should heal mana is best way to help party" person never played mage but can tell how i should play ( my main chars allways mage because they are funy. playing more than 1 year only with mage )

tell me how many time you run arena on a mage? do you allready have a mage? lol

Edit: also lets dont forget it, why there no mages doing pvp? if the mage have a great sheild and hight damage?

Mages great at mobs, Weak on bosses.

A legendary mage cant do anything in arena + tomb boss,
a legendary warrior still doing good on t3 or arena.
a legendary rogue doing good on t3 or arena.

you aren't a legendary so why is this pertinent? And its well established regular farming of arena and tombs is unreasonable in ankh usage for all classes on legendary gear. Rogues and wars in the same boat unless they're partied with people in better gear.

In short. Don't sit here asking for buffs that aren't needed for a class that is just fine at the moment in contrast to other class imbalances because you've been playing for so long and are still doing it wrong.

[Jazzi]

A full legendary rogue will get one hit by every boss attack in t3 and by most of the mobs. It will get one hit by most boss attacks in arena. I am full mythic with planar pendant grand gems and eyes and get one hit by at least half of the red zones in arena.

Sts might take all those feedback threads more seriously if they were not full of gross exaggerations.

[e'dria♡]

they do? i mostly run on a pt with mages and i think they find easy pt compare to tank because mages can deal with the environment like mush and spiders.

As a rogue, i prefer to get a mage than a tank, so i think tank is the one that needs a buff on pve - still.

[Dex Scene]

Dex Scene= do you have a mage you are playing on arena?

mage damages only hight at numbers. if you play on a mage in arena or t3 boss, you will know what i mean.

Chaifr= Mage armor not working well as you though. mages get pts crazy?


For both of you. if mage have a hight damage why its takes years to kill a boss with full mage war party?

for the give you idea about mages

if i dont have a shield. 1 mushroom takes like my %75-80 of heal.

if i have sheild 2 mushroom still kills me.

if i dont have shield, arena mage boss killing me 1 hit with hes normal atack.

ferrix red circle atack kill me 1 hit its doesnt matter if i have shield, i ll still die.

my gears= wild talisman, Frost bow, mythic ring, mythic arm helm with para. sure i did 200+ time tomb run,

sure i did 600+ time new arena run.

thats my experiences. play with a mage and share me your experience i would like to see.

You both sound seems like my 1 friend who keep says "mage in the tomb3 should heal mana is best way to help party" person never played mage but can tell how i should play ( my main chars allways mage because they are funy. playing more than 1 year only with mage )

tell me how many time you run arena on a mage? do you allready have a mage? lol

Edit: also lets dont forget it, why there no mages doing pvp? if the mage have a great sheild and hight damage?

Mages great at mobs, Weak on bosses.

A legendary mage cant do anything in arena + tomb boss,
a legendary warrior still doing good on t3 or arena.
a legendary rogue doing good on t3 or arena.

Full mages Party don't run in arena. Its true rogues are demanded the most but mages get good pts too. I, most of the times run with 1 mage in my pt!!
Also mage's defense is okay!
they are weak when shield is down but when they have shield they are great defending lil smurfs.
Their shield is great and the invulnerability upgrade save em in crucial time if you time ur shield correctly.


Rogues don't have invulnerability.. mage and warriors have.
Rogues don't have mana regen skills. Mage and warriors have.
Rogues don't get benefits from a pet's damage bonus. Mages and warriors get it.

Rogues live with it.

Mages are fine.
they are AOE class. You see what they do in mines hauntlets.

If any class which need buffs in pve, its warrior!!

[CheifR]

Dex Scene= do you have a mage you are playing on arena?

mage damages only hight at numbers. if you play on a mage in arena or t3 boss, you will know what i mean.

Chaifr= Mage armor not working well as you though. mages get pts crazy?


For both of you. if mage have a hight damage why its takes years to kill a boss with full mage war party?

for the give you idea about mages

if i dont have a shield. 1 mushroom takes like my %75-80 of heal.

if i have sheild 2 mushroom still kills me.

if i dont have shield, arena mage boss killing me 1 hit with hes normal atack.

ferrix red circle atack kill me 1 hit its doesnt matter if i have shield, i ll still die.

my gears= wild talisman, Frost bow, mythic ring, mythic arm helm with para. sure i did 200+ time tomb run,

sure i did 600+ time new arena run.

thats my experiences. play with a mage and share me your experience i would like to see.

You both sound seems like my 1 friend who keep says "mage in the tomb3 should heal mana is best way to help party" person never played mage but can tell how i should play ( my main chars allways mage because they are funy. playing more than 1 year only with mage )

tell me how many time you run arena on a mage? do you allready have a mage? lol

Edit: also lets dont forget it, why there no mages doing pvp? if the mage have a great sheild and hight damage?

Mages great at mobs, Weak on bosses.

A legendary mage cant do anything in arena + tomb boss,
a legendary warrior still doing good on t3 or arena.
a legendary rogue doing good on t3 or arena.

You're missing the point! First half of your post I'm sorry but some stuff I didn't understand (not to be rude) but you can't complain about not being able to kill a boss as fast as rogues; what do you think is the point of the rogue class in the first place! And YES arcane shield is an amazing skill that they've recently even buffed MULTIPLE TIMES. Mages are great for crowd control so again I see people request their help VERY often. As well as arena!

I'd also like to ask have u even played rogue??mushrooms still 2hit us as well as most other redzones in arena, we aren't tanks.

[Azefiokall]

all thats true but rogues have special skills (aim/razor/sp(not sureit is like that)/nox) these skills help rogues alot aim is scary coze crit razor don't make rogues get stunned sp they use it some times to run from mushrooms and crystal nox is good dmg


mages have (light/shield/fb/ice)(these r my skills that i use for bosses) but mages still weak without shiled the shield cool down i think 36sec or more thats prolem in pvp and pve but he still can servive in pve coze pot and run but in pvp it is big problem (not talking about full geared with arcane pet) lets make a mythic armor/helm/pendent/bonesaw or bulwark(frost or elon) lvl41/ring tank with slag vs mythic armor/helm/pendent/frost gun or elon gun/ring mage with slag the mage will die for sure don't say he is not timing hes skills he is an for rogues ofc rogues will kill tank but not mage coze of new shield ability but in pve he is good with mobs but in boss area he suck if u see he is the first one who die coze hes low stat hes dmg good if have mythic armor/helm/pendent but he need at less 1rogue to kill boss fast my point is in pvp mages suck in vs coze when hes shield gone he is dead like fish with out water but in pve he can servive coze of pot same as rogues and mages need buff in pvp to survive ofc


tank tbh they r hard to handel coze they face many problem in pve they hardly get a party but in pvp a team with out tank (talking about normal clashes not geared) is a dead team so tanks need buff in pve in pvp they rule coze of shield of the heal soo they need buff in pve

and about rogues they r cool if u see many ppl have switchs their classes from mage/tank to a rogue coze they rule in pvp/pve (talking in normal rogues not geared) and who said that rogues r hard they r simple all u need is 5skills to play in pvp/pve their crit is great in pvp/pve their dmg/armor/hp/dodge/dps soo the only perfect class in the game and it have 0 buff is rogue if u see all the sts doing is trying to buff mages/tanks to make them as good as rogues soo all we need is palance between the classes mages suffering in pvp tanks suffering in pve rogue not complaining about anything just complaining about the mages shield and tbh if they need to buff mages they need to make mages use 5skilld not just 4 and i read some one saying that mage have mana in their heal skill and tanks have mana in their vb and rogues have no mana and the tanks have shield in their heal skill but rogues hp is best one of them all u know why coze u have 3 packs if i want some thing on my mage is that skill coze our heal skill suck try to play mage in pvp and use (light/fb or ice/heal/shield) vs a rogue u will die(talking about same gear) thats all i have

[CheifR]

if you see repetitive stuffs from mage perspective, its mean there something wrong on mages.

I have other classes to. I have warior and rogue to. do you have a mage? pls post your mage and rogue ss I would like to see your statue - kill die count

I see this type of stuff for every class including rogues asking to remove our nerf in pvp. I ALSO see other mages who main mage(this thread included) telling to stop complaining about nothing-.-

My mage pve kd is about 55k kills 420or so deaths I'll send ss when tapatalk chooses to let pics load pass 70%

Not to be rude but I find this thread pointless and the only class that I think need a buff is warriors FOR PVE ONLY STS as of now it's one hit here one hit here for ALL classes

[CheifR]

all thats true but rogues have special skills (aim/razor/sp(not sureit is like that)/nox) these skills help rogues alot aim is scary coze crit razor don't make rogues get stunned sp they use it some times to run from mushrooms and crystal nox is good dmg


mages have (light/shield/fb/ice)(these r my skills that i use for bosses) but mages still weak without shiled the shield cool down i think 36sec or more thats prolem in pvp and pve but he still can servive in pve coze pot and run but in pvp it is big problem (not talking about full geared with arcane pet) lets make a mythic armor/helm/pendent/bonesaw or bulwark(frost or elon) lvl41/ring tank with slag vs mythic armor/helm/pendent/frost gun or elon gun/ring mage with slag the mage will die for sure don't say he is not timing hes skills he is an for rogues ofc rogues will kill tank but not mage coze of new shield ability but in pve he is good with mobs but in boss area he suck if u see he is the first one who die coze hes low stat hes dmg good if have mythic armor/helm/pendent but he need at less 1rogue to kill boss fast my point is in pvp mages suck in vs coze when hes shield gone he is dead like fish with out water but in pve he can servive coze of pot same as rogues and mages need buff in pvp to survive ofc


tank tbh they r hard to handel coze they face many problem in pve they hardly get a party but in pvp a team with out tank (talking about normal clashes not geared) is a dead team so tanks need buff in pve in pvp they rule coze of shield of the heal soo they need buff in pve

and about rogues they r cool if u see many ppl have switchs their classes from mage/tank to a rogue coze they rule in pvp/pve (talking in normal rogues not geared) and who said that rogues r hard they r simple all u need is 5skills to play in pvp/pve their crit is great in pvp/pve their dmg/armor/hp/dodge/dps soo the only perfect class in the game and it have 0 buff is rogue if u see all the sts doing is trying to buff mages/tanks to make them as good as rogues soo all we need is palance between the classes mages suffering in pvp tanks suffering in pve rogue not complaining about anything just complaining about the mages shield and tbh if they need to buff mages they need to make mages use 5skilld not just 4 and i read some one saying that mage have mana in their heal skill and tanks have mana in their vb and rogues have no mana and the tanks have shield in their heal skill but rogues hp is best one of them all u know why coze u have 3 packs if i want some thing on my mage is that skill coze our heal skill suck try to play mage in pvp and use (light/fb or ice/heal/shield) vs a rogue u will die(talking about same gear) thats all i have

Rogues have no invincibility skill like mages and tanks and all the things I see one-two hitting mages in arena/planar tombs does the same to us despite our armor.

Arcane shield cool down is exactly 27* seconds leaving literary like a couple seconds til recast and giving invincibility upon said cast.

Pretty much all the problems I've seen here all people who are so used to the complaints about their class that they assume it's sts not favoring their class enough without realising everyone is having the same problems

[debitmandiri]

So u wanna 3k armor, 75% dodge and another +60sec invulnerability ?

[Titanfall]

[mmaachilles211]

To op I play as a mage and have been for over 2 years and I get tons of invites and never had a problem doing so. Mage shield is ridiculous right now that it's been buffed. Yah all mages have low dodge but you shouldn't be running in like Rambo just cause you have a gun lol. Play the outside like all ranged characters should. Mages are meant for aoe and crowd control not to be super fast killers. If you don't like that then play a rogue but I'm sure if that happened you'd complain because now you can't control crowds...

[mmaachilles211]

Lol if you think thsee guys don't get parties haha

[Edward Coug]

A legendary mage cant do anything in arena + tomb boss

I find it so funny when players don't think they can run with legendary gears in planar tombs. Skill is more important than gear in PvE. Better gear just makes the run faster. Legendary mages can do everything you need them to do in tombs. The mage I always run with has all legendary gear, and I never see a single vine at the boss.

Mages are totally fine as is. Warriors, on the other hand, need to be able to hold aggro. That's a far more pressing issue.

[JohnnyHardcore]

It's ok, when it comes time to level up to 46, and the rogues are sending me pm's to party with them, I'll stick with my mage friends so we can finish in the top 50. :P

Amen brother!