The Lifecycle..

[Hoardseeker]

So,I noticed everyone Fighting over Buffing other's HP/Mana In Fights,Read this if you use LifeGiver, Here is the Life Cycle,

Mage and a Warrior

Mage Gives Mana = Warrior Uses HoR = Mage can Survive without Pots

Mage does not gives Mana = Warrior Can not use HoR = Mage MAY die

Mage and Rogue

Mage Gives mana = Rogue spawns HP packs = Mage can also Pick it (OR) Rogue can Kill Boss Faster

Mage Does not Give mana = Rogue does not spawn HP Packs = Rogue Dies (OR) Killing Boss takes More Time!(Seriously,you ask a rogue to burn 100Mana Pots who is Helping you in a Party?)

Rogue and Warrior
WE NEED MAGE! <----- Absolutely True

Remember ! Life Giver Plays a Major Role in PvE and PvP,if you use Life Giver and when someone asks for Mana just Give them Mana as it gives Extra Mana for you too!

[Appeltjes]

So,I noticed everyone Fighting over Buffing other's HP/Mana In Fights,Read this if you use LifeGiver, Here is the Life Cycle,

Mage and a Warrior

Mage Gives Mana = Warrior Uses HoR = Mage can Survive without Pots

Mage does not gives Mana = Warrior Can not use HoR = Mage MAY die

Mage and Rogue

Mage Gives mana = Rogue spawns HP packs = Mage can also Pick it (OR) Rogue can Kill Boss Faster

Mage Does not Give mana = Rogue does not spawn HP Packs = Rogue Dies (OR) Killing Boss takes More Time!(Seriously,you ask a rogue to burn 100Mana Pots who is Helping you in a Party?)

Rogue and Warrior
WE NEED MAGE! <----- Absolutely True

Remember ! Life Giver Plays a Major Role in PvE and PvP,if you use Life Giver and when someone asks for Mana just Give them Mana as it gives Extra Mana for you too!

Warrior vb.

[CheifR]

So,I noticed everyone Fighting over Buffing other's HP/Mana In Fights,Read this if you use LifeGiver, Here is the Life Cycle,

Mage and a Warrior

Mage Gives Mana = Warrior Uses HoR = Mage can Survive without Pots

Mage does not gives Mana = Warrior Can not use HoR = Mage MAY die

Mage and Rogue

Mage Gives mana = Rogue spawns HP packs = Mage can also Pick it (OR) Rogue can Kill Boss Faster

Mage Does not Give mana = Rogue does not spawn HP Packs = Rogue Dies (OR) Killing Boss takes More Time!(Seriously,you ask a rogue to burn 100Mana Pots who is Helping you in a Party?)

Rogue and Warrior
WE NEED MAGE! <----- Absolutely True

Remember ! Life Giver Plays a Major Role in PvE and PvP,if you use Life Giver and when someone asks for Mana just Give them Mana as it gives Extra Mana for you too!

Pots are a thing.

Useless in any non pvp zone plus warriors have vb

[ClumsyCactus]

Rogues already spam pots, and by thr time they finish saying "mana" they could be full on mana by pressing pots.

[Hoardseeker]

Pots are a thing.

Useless in any non pvp zone plus warriors have vb

Go as A Rogue,I bet you are not a Rogue

[CheifR]

Go as A Rogue,I bet you are not a Rogue

My main character is a rogue...

[Hoardseeker]

Warrior vb.

do you think everyone uses it?

Rogues already spam pots, and by thr time they finish saying "mana" they could be full on mana by pressing pots.

to fill mana bar fully ,you need to use 3Pots,Mostly Rogues can use 6-8Skills with full bar

My main character is a rogue...

then you know how much pots rogues use and you say LifeGiver useless? Don't make me rude


Agree with me or not..its the lifecycle

[Magegrimm]

Rogues...to pot is a freaking nightmare but anyway I agree Lifegiver is important, I never actually thought it was. I use it for different occasions like this:
When I'm in a party with 2 rogues and a tank I use it... when I'm with 2 rogues and a mage and the other mage doesn't have lifegiver or doesn't use it, I use.
When there's 2 mages and a rogue/tank I use life giver if others don't have. So basically I use it whenever I have a party without a mage or a party with a mage without lifegiver.
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Event though both classes need mage they usually just pot even if it costs a lot, we can always heal them and give them mana but by the time we do it they already pot, that's why I thought it was useless but since I party with guild members and friends they all know that I have lifegiver so I can save them some money

[Appeltjes]

do you think everyone uses it?



to fill mana bar fully ,you need to use 3Pots,Mostly Rogues can use 6-8Skills with full bar


then you know how much pots rogues use and you say LifeGiver useless? Don't make me rude


Agree with me or not..its the lifecycle

Every experienced tank uses vb

[Hoardseeker]

Every experienced tank uses vb

Mostly if you run Random maps,Warriors do not use that.

Agree with me or not,its the Lifecycle.

[Kingofninjas]

This thread gave me a good laugh. Any mage who uses heal in anything harder than elite dead city is not a mage I would run with again period. It is much faster to spend the pots that rely on mages for mana. They are better off with an extra damaging skill.

[Arachnophobik]

I love lifegiver on pvp i think mages that know to support mana loss on pvp is great and mages/rogues that treat horn heal as a bonus are very gpod players in pve tho, id rather be the tank, and have mages do crowd control, having stunned/slowed enemies makes it easier for me to support my team

[Aerodude]

I wouldn't mind mages using heal in maps dead city below but in kraken and up no no no way we need way more mob control skills and I'm a mage who doesn't and never uses heal in any elite cause I can pot and when others say mama I just say the pots were created for a reason so sometimes when I solo its either fire ice light shift or fire ice shift shield

[jorpox]

Totally disagree with this.

[Jirikjurasek]

So,I noticed everyone Fighting over Buffing other's HP/Mana In Fights,Read this if you use LifeGiver, Here is the Life Cycle,

Mage and a Warrior

Mage Gives Mana = Mage dont freeze/stun mobs = Warrior Uses HoR in bad time = Mage DIE

Mage does not gives Mana = Warrior Can use HoR in proper time = Mage SURVIVE

Mage and Rogue

Mage Gives mana = Rogue spawns HP packs = Rogue sacrifice attack skill on heal = longer boss fight = more pots&ankhs = Rogue CANīT Kill Boss Faster

Mage Does not Give mana = Rogue does not spawn HP Packs = Rogue KILL bos FASTER because using another attack skill instead of heal packs

(Seriously,you ask a rogue to burn 100Mana Pots who is Helping you in a Party? Yes, I as warr burn more health potions, so why not)

Rogue and Warrior
WE NEED MAGE WITHOUT HEAL IN ENDGAME ELITES! <----- Absolutely True

I just edit text and color distribution a bit

[Wutzgood]

Mages heal in pve is worthless and hurts the party more than helps. You are much better off with an extra attack.

If a rogue can't afford pots then use Jack for mana. Mana begging is just as bad or worse than the gold beggars in town. They just make me laugh.

[Madnex]

Would be tons of fun to make maps without HP potions to force some party balance. Right now a big part of the issue is the ability of the DPS to spam healing potions.

[-no]

You can crowd control, and still use lifegiver.

I have saved many, many people with a correct timed heal. You cant always keep up the pot spamming vs damage intake.

Heal, no heal, either build is fine. Neither is bad, just different. Personally, all classes should unlock more skills, and adapt to the party/map.

[Tatman]

I guess this is a joke. Heal is a useless skill in pve.

[debitmandiri]

As long pots are available, my opinion, lifegiver in pve is totaly useless (endgame). Reason :
1. Lost 1 slot skill, u can swap it with offensive one
2. Elite mobs hit hard, no chance u will be able to survive from using lifegiver only (2-3 hit u dead)

Same goes to rogue with medic pack in elite maps.