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    You guys can wish all you want for GCD to be removed, but you're wasting your time. I'm not saying I like it either, I liked it better without, but it is here to stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogerfooger View Post
    You guys can wish all you want for GCD to be removed, but you're wasting your time. I'm not saying I like it either, I liked it better without, but it is here to stay.
    People keep saying that, but if enough people voice enough displeasure by leaving the game then GCD will go byebye. I don't think that will happen, but you never know.

    Having said that GCD in its current form is better than day one. It *IS* glitchy however. To insure a spell is going to be case, I generally have to tap 2 or 3 times on said skill.

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    I have to agree with moogerfooger, I'm also quite convinced that it's here to say.

    I'm actually hoping that some other mmo developer team might be interested in all this fuss we're having here and would go for the kind of gameplay that would have the speed and feel that would again cater enjoyment to players like me with massive fps background. If I want slow rhythmic thumping I'll just buy roses for my wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hullukko View Post
    I have to agree with moogerfooger, I'm also quite convinced that it's here to say.

    I'm actually hoping that some other mmo developer team might be interested in all this fuss we're having here and would go for the kind of gameplay that would have the speed and feel that would again cater enjoyment to players like me with massive fps background. If I want slow rhythmic thumping I'll just buy roses for my wife.
    Problem is is that no one makes a PvP game that allows you to use all your attacks at once. The only games that do aloe you to do that are arcade action games and whatnot. PL is unique in that it allowed us to do that. But it the Devs admitted it was a mistake and that they should hav built the game around PvP and going back now and fixing it is difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morawk View Post
    Problem is is that no one makes a PvP game that allows you to use all your attacks at once. The only games that do aloe you to do that are arcade action games and whatnot. PL is unique in that it allowed us to do that. But it the Devs admitted it was a mistake and that they should hav built the game around PvP and going back now and fixing it is difficult.
    I never said anything like that. Sts had a game I liked, the pve in it especially, and I was hoping someone would make a game with like this was. You can't really invoke "no one" a week after they added gcd.

    Besides, multipressing could've been fixed by removing multipressing from skills. That wasn't why they added gcd to begin with.

    And on what holy mission are you on? I see you countering nearly every anti gcd post here with occasionally, forgive me, not quite to the point arguments.

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    A GCD is not the only solution to preventing using multiple skills at once, period.

    Further, I thought it was great that STS made PL as an MMO with an arcade feel, multiple skill use or not, -- it's why I played.

    I don't understand why some think it's a valid argument to say "other games do this blargy blarg." If innovation were bound by rules of what already existed and what other people did there would be no innovation.


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    It really won't be as bad as so many think, at least for PVE. 1/2 a second GCD is barely noticeable.

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    I'm not on any holy mission. This has just been a hot topic and I like to discuss and debate things. Also, I just happen to be on the pro-GCD side of things so, of course, that makes me the not so popular guy. I know I'm not going to change anyone's mind, but I love the game, love the Devs and I know that they love the game too so I trust that what they do, they do to better the game and set the foundation for new things in the future.

    For some reason, I feel this need to defend PL. Maybe I love this game and the community too much hehe. I hope nobody takes this too personal though. It's just friendly discussion. Really, if it's bothering anyone, I'll stop posting and let y'all agree with each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morawk View Post
    I wasn't bashing you. I was pointing out that you, maybe unintentionally, are being condescending to anyone who is willing to give GCD a go. That's all I'm saying.
    Ur original quote, is gcd pvp not elite? If u didn't like me labeling it elite next thing you know I'm condescending, wow. Like I said, call it whatever, I was just proposing alternatives to the pvp arenas. A gcd arena (which in the current state is what we have), and adding a non pvp arena (currently what they have taken from us).

    I'll be thoughtful of your feeling, gcd its you is elite so what would you call non gcd?

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    Oh I'm considerate to the 35% who won't log on, and for all the people in the dungeons voicing their opinions about how much gcd is making their game play so enjoyable..

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkerelf View Post
    I'll be thoughtful of your feeling, gcd its you is elite so what would you call non gcd?
    I never claimed that GCD PvP is elite. What I was pointing out to you was by you suggesting a new "elite" area for non-GCD PvP, it could appear that you're condescending to people who are ok with GCD.
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    Lol, I was being sarcastic..

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkerelf View Post
    Lol, I was being sarcastic..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiliana View Post
    It really won't be as bad as so many think, at least for PVE. 1/2 a second GCD is barely noticeable.

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    So far I got used to the new update and I am loving it, now birds and mages don't need all that mana regen and other specs can be done, like the enchantment gear or been a dex Mage. We had some pretty good runs in the last two days with very good time on runs on every stage.

    As for the pvp part I have never pvped to much but it is more enjoyable now. Before it was either multi tap or just use your combo faster than the other person to win. Now it does add more strategy to it and games still end pretty fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morawk View Post
    I never claimed that GCD PvP is elite. What I was pointing out to you was by you suggesting a new "elite" area for non-GCD PvP, it could appear that you're condescending to people who are ok with GCD.
    My original post, was to add a non gcd pvp arena ontop of the current gcd pvp arena. Adding, not taking away anything, just adding.. tell me how that is condescending?

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    i'm having trouble with some glitches with the recently implemented GCD. some of my skill buttons get stucked, basically i can tap it, but it wont activate, u can just keep tapping on it, and it wont activate for a while. its not due to lag as other skill buttons are working. do you guys see this problem too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkerelf View Post
    My original post, was to add a non gcd pvp arena ontop of the current gcd pvp arena. Adding, not taking away anything, just adding.. tell me how that is condescending?
    I can keep repeating what I'm saying but it seems you're not understanding the point of what I'm saying. There's nothing wrong with suggesting a separate PvP arena for people who enjoy pre-GCD mechanics. What I'm pointing out is the fact that you called this new area "elite", implying that people who like to play with GCD are gimp in some way and are not elite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morawk View Post
    I can keep repeating what I'm saying but it seems you're not understanding the point of what I'm saying. There's nothing wrong with suggesting a separate PvP arena for people who enjoy pre-GCD mechanics. What I'm pointing out is the fact that you called this new area "elite", implying that people who like to play with GCD are gimp in some way and are not elite.
    Lol, I have read his initial suggestion which I think is very creative in terms of proposing alternative solutions. You are completely putting words in his mouth by accusing him of what you assumed were his implications. Ill tell you what I think he meant by "elite." He meant that this new arena would be for the PvP veterans (and majority of the PvP community) that grew accustomed to and loved the well balanced game play of PvP before.
    On that note, I think it is a great idea. Just like how we have "elite dungeons," we can have "elite PvP arenas." And to be honest (coming from the majority of PvPers once again), it was more challenging before than it is now, and would be fitting to label it as such. This is just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhew View Post
    i'm having trouble with some glitches with the recently implemented GCD. some of my skill buttons get stucked, basically i can tap it, but it wont activate, u can just keep tapping on it, and it wont activate for a while. its not due to lag as other skill buttons are working. do you guys see this problem too?
    Im sure it has been mentioned plenty of times already but Im experiencing the same problem. The skills do not register when tapped. I us an iPhone4.

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    Just wondering if I will be able to enjoy playing again...I loved this game, now when I play I want to throw my phone...lol. I haven't seen a reply to the devs about the glitches coming since the updates with GCD. Everytime my skills lag, combos never land bc of such a lag, half the time they aren't registering, can click and nothing. This is frustrating. Im being honest here, my lag is way worse in game since this was implemented. Very choppy gameplay and its not enjoyable at all. We didn't have all these problems before...I wish we could just go back to the way it was. The time isn't such an issue with the GCD now, its fine. Its the glitchiness of it. Skills don't work half the time and when they do they take effect long after the button has pressed.

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    when is the update sumbitted at android market ???? Will it be???please!!! Let me know

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