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    Default Korgar Goretusk - Reflect Cue

    Ok, so first bit of feedback about the new expansion is that Goretusk is brutal. He's like Elite BloodHammer, Sorrax, and Alpha Wolf's bastard step child, LOL.

    Not only does he have pretty quick wind ups that stun for about 3-5 secs, but he also has a reflect shield like our good ol' pal Alpha Wolf from the Nordr expansion. The reflect on Goretusk, however, is much harder to predict - with Alpha Wolf we had both the visual and audio cue of him stopping to howl in order to know when to steer clear of his reflect shield.

    Goretusk on the other hand is a lot harder to predict. As a visual cue we get the animations for Razor Shield spinning around him, which is the red flag that his reflect shield is up and not to touch him, but there isn't an audio cue like Alpha Wolf's howl. At best, you might be able to see him do the classic warrior shout animations before the Razor Shield goes up, but that's only if you're not running for your life as he chases you across the boss room. And that's while you're also taking attacks from the band of merry Orcs (which are never ending and come at faster intervals) as his HP gets lower.

    I can already see that it's designed to gouge you for ankhs at every 15-20 seconds if you're not careful. So I'd like to suggest that you guys give us a better set of cues for when that reflect shield is gonna go up. Because tbh, that particular skill is already a nightmare in normal maps I don't even want to think about what kind of horror that will be in elites.
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    i rather like it, the reflect is one part where warriors with higher health and lower damage are useful...its pretty simple, keep the warrior with the boss, let the rogues nd mages be at a distance shooting the boss and his minions as needed.
    First 1-2 hits on purple shield can be survived by warrior and uses a consequent horn, saving himself and any rogue with an errant shot on the boss.
    A reflect with too many cues is useless, too easy to avoid which renders it pointless

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    IMO the fact that the reflection shield isn't predictable is good because it will make warriors useful.

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    Well as a mage with DOT skills, reflect is the bane of my squishy existence. So while it makes a warrior more useful it makes me farmable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcerie View Post
    Well as a mage with DOT skills, reflect is the bane of my squishy existence. So while it makes a warrior more useful it makes me farmable...
    Lmao,didn't think about that i'm a warrior XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrian View Post
    Lmao,didn't think about that i'm a warrior XD

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    Problem for mages is we can't use charged Fireball, Ice, or Clock on Goretusk without the possibility that any one of those attacks will get you killed so fast you won't know what hit you. So that leaves lightning, which will also reflect horrible damage if you manage a crit on the boss, and Gale, which might keep you alive a fraction of a second longer if you have the armor upgrade (but Gale still sucks, period).

    So yea, maybe something for us mages to keep track of as cue would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcerie View Post
    Well as a mage with DOT skills, reflect is the bane of my squishy existence. So while it makes a warrior more useful it makes me farmable...
    Yep. I still get the chills when I hear alpha wolfs name. Using all attack skills made him a nightmare. Killed myself so many times because his shield went up while my skills were mid way to him.

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    Use kelvin pt and this boss turns into a stunned Pussycat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beezulbulb View Post
    Use kelvin pt and this boss turns into a stunned Pussycat.
    Lol, the good ol' Kelvin tactic.

    That will work for about 50 - 75% of his health and then he starts summoning Orcs every few seconds, which will confuse Kelvin. Not to mention Kelvin lowers your stats dramatically which will make killing the Orcs slower, which allows him more time to summon more if you don't kill them fast enough, which can mean you'll be stuck killing Orcs because you can't target the boss properly. All this while he's chasing you with wind ups and reflecting damage.

    A good tactic, but remember this is a normal map we're being introduced to. Elite Goretusk won't be nearly as forgiving.
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    thanks for the feedback on the fight guys!

    For now I think the lack of tell will remain, as it can be timed out if you pay attention. The damage output of his reflect will likely be reduced however. On a related note, any DoTs on Korgar BEFORE he uses his reflect will be wiped away. You will only suffer damage on DoTs that are applied after his reflect goes up. Spamming DoT spells will be a dangerous move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carapace View Post
    thanks for the feedback on the fight guys!

    For now I think the lack of tell will remain, as it can be timed out if you pay attention. The damage output of his reflect will likely be reduced however. On a related note, any DoTs on Korgar BEFORE he uses his reflect will be wiped away. You will only suffer damage on DoTs that are applied after his reflect goes up. Spamming DoT spells will be a dangerous move.
    You mean people will actually have to pay attention, instead of spamming mindlessly? The horror!!! :P
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    You watch Game of Thrones? ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carapace View Post
    thanks for the feedback on the fight guys!

    For now I think the lack of tell will remain, as it can be timed out if you pay attention. The damage output of his reflect will likely be reduced however. On a related note, any DoTs on Korgar BEFORE he uses his reflect will be wiped away. You will only suffer damage on DoTs that are applied after his reflect goes up. Spamming DoT spells will be a dangerous move.
    I died at least 3 to 4 times with dot effect which is used before korgar used his reflect. Even died with critical shot of lightning in one shot with a hp of 4500 (ancient pendant) . Imagine a normal group of mages around 3300 to 3800hp. Also rogues with crit aim shot will die in one shot if even paying attention. Please look into this.

    Atleast a small difference in korgar voice would help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesparky View Post
    I died at least 3 to 4 times with dot effect which is used before korgar used his reflect. Even died with critical shot of lightning in one shot with a hp of 4500 (ancient pendant) . Imagine a normal group of mages around 3300 to 3800hp. Also rogues with crit aim shot will die in one shot if even paying attention. Please look into this.

    Atleast a small difference in korgar voice would help.
    Lol, with my full planarz and imbueds my 5.2k crit blasted me all the way from 100% to 0% -.-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wazakesy View Post
    Lol, with my full planarz and imbueds my 5.2k crit blasted me all the way from 100% to 0% -.-
    xd. i know ur feeling lol. I felt the same haha


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesparky View Post
    xd. i know ur feeling lol. I felt the same haha
    my expedition rogue with full normal gemmed mythic set with planar amulet and with singe usually scores 3k crits, now when i got a 5k crit, i never knew i had such dangerous moves, truly what serancha said, THE HORROR!!!!

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    Well , R.I.P. Mages. (you will get rekt by your own skill) muhahahha

    I'm a mage too. So.. Meh :/ *face palms*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheentaro View Post
    Well , R.I.P. Mages. (you will get rekt by your own skill) muhahahha

    I'm a mage too. So.. Meh :/ *face palms*
    yeah, us mages haz been squashed again as usual :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carapace View Post
    thanks for the feedback on the fight guys!

    For now I think the lack of tell will remain, as it can be timed out if you pay attention. The damage output of his reflect will likely be reduced however. On a related note, any DoTs on Korgar BEFORE he uses his reflect will be wiped away. You will only suffer damage on DoTs that are applied after his reflect goes up. Spamming DoT spells will be a dangerous move.
    Agreed with removing running dots before the reflect starts but you should keep the reflect damage up to make warriors more useful. And also, it's no fun if you're allowed to mess up without heavy repercussions on the last boss's special move.

    At least the Elite version should stay as is.

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    Not since season 2. Why? I'm older than that show - any line I use that they did was mine first.
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