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    It's time for warrior to get a buff... Even with jugg rouges can still 1hit

    Its ridiculous that I've seen a lot of rouges and mages almost the same health and armor as a warrior!!!

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    Rogues maybe but a sorc with the same amount of armor and health......you're kidding right
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    For starters, I suggest you try something better than broken chainmail.

    If you want to do comparisons you have to compare equal gear levels. Not your outdated, so-so gemmed, L41 legendary-geared warr to maxed out rogues with the new mythics and L46's current best legendaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyWow View Post
    It's time for warrior to get a buff... Even with jugg rouges can still 1hit

    Its ridiculous that I've seen a lot of rouges and mages almost the same health and armor as a warrior!!!
    I've yet to see a rogue or mage with anything close to 8k health and 3k armor. I think it's safe to say you're way under-geared. I don't PvP, but I hear that wars are the best, and rogues are the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madnex View Post
    For starters, I suggest you try something better than broken chainmail.

    If you want to do comparisons you have to compare equal gear levels. Not your outdated, so-so gemmed, L41 legendary-geared warr to maxed out rogues with the new mythics and L46's current best legendaries.
    Even level 41 legendary (non-imbued) warrior has 1500+ more hp than a maxed 46 rogue.

    With equal gear:

    A 46 warrior with Grimm has 8200 hp and 2350 armour.

    A 46 rogue with Grimm has 4828 hp and 1885 armour

    A 46 mage with Grimm has 4971 hp and 1461 armour

    Where all 3 are using level 46 weapon, armour, helm, level 43 belt, and the same arcane ring and planar pendant. (the rogue has maxed gems on the level 46 gear, the others have normal)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Coug View Post
    I've yet to see a rogue or mage with anything close to 8k health and 3k armor. I think it's safe to say you're way under-geared. I don't PvP, but I hear that wars are the best, and rogues are the worst.
    Rogues are quite good in pvp at endgame at least C=

    At the op, Very huge exaggeration of the truth however. Currently, wars are being heavily rejected cause elites are so easy for most people without the scaling. Don't fret to much, once they are scaled wars will be wanted in most pt's....
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    Warriors don't need a buff,they are already good in PvP.
    In PvE...eh...well...they need to be warriors,not parking machines or tanks without a turret.
    I think warriors need an improvement to their role, not a buff.

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    Agreed

    I have seen rouges with about 5,5 k hp and 2 k armor

    And im not kidding i also have seen a mage with 6.1 k hp !!! And other mages can reach about 5-5.5 k hp...

    My Legend geard war just have 7 k hp and 2.25 k armor so there is just a smal gape betwen thos stas... Furthemore rouges / mages have about 700-950 dmg and warrior just 450-650 if they a bit good geard! So i have experinced that nobody wants to run elites, arena and so on with warriors cause it takes too long... :/ And since mages/ rouges have nekro and its shield warriors got more useless

    And if you now think wait warriors can reach 9 k, hp 1 k dmg with maul or 2,8 k armor with Bulwark ... Those are just very well geard people who have payed about 30-50 m for that gear too become that dood.... But there are just a few of them who can afford that gear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomm View Post
    Agreed

    I have seen rouges with about 5,5 k hp and 2 k armor

    And im not kidding i also have seen a mage with 6.1 k hp !!! And other mages can reach about 5-5.5 k hp...

    My Legend geard war just have 7 k hp and 2.25 k armor so there is just a smal gape betwen thos stas... Furthemore rouges / mages have about 700-950 dmg and warrior just 450-650 if they a bit good geard! So i have experinced that nobody wants to run elites, arena and so on with warriors cause it takes too long... :/ And since mages/ rouges have nekro and its shield warriors got more useless

    And if you now think wait warriors can reach 9 k, hp 1 k dmg with maul or 2,8 k armor with Bulwark ... Those are just very well geard people who have payed about 30-50 m for that gear too become that dood.... But there are just a few of them who can afford that gear
    You need to compare apples to apples. You can't compare a max geared rogue or mage to a lesser geared warrior. It's just not very informative.

    Look at Serancha's post above.

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    Anyways warriors need a buff couse the prety useless, for example in the rengol maps they spend a lot of time stunted and just deal very low dmg, sometimes i even cant charge attack without get stunted...

    And how i mentiod above ppl prefer run without Tanks couse the deal near to any dmg and runs are faster without them

    So i wish that tanks could get a new wepon for Exempel a crosbow like the orcs have with deal some dmg.... And Tanks get usefull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Coug View Post
    I've yet to see a rogue or mage with anything close to 8k health and 3k armor. I think it's safe to say you're way under-geared. I don't PvP, but I hear that wars are the best, and rogues are the worst.
    Lol your last sentence was hilarious, Warriors the best in PVP? For sure not at endgame, it's the exact opposite, rogues op even with dmg nerff still, then mages, then warriors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caabatric View Post
    Rogues are quite good in pvp at endgame at least C=

    At the op, Very huge exaggeration of the truth however. Currently, wars are being heavily rejected cause elites are so easy for most people without the scaling. Don't fret to much, once they are scaled wars will be wanted in most pt's....
    War or tank ? From what I have seen 99% warriors are dps wanna be , hiding behind other class begging for mana

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    The buff warrios need is to be deleted from the game. All everyone wants is dmg and fast runs so bam problem solved
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    Rogues were actually breaking my jug today in tdm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrian View Post
    Warriors don't need a buff,they are already good in PvP.
    In PvE...eh...well...they need to be warriors,not parking machines or tanks without a turret.
    I think warriors need an improvement to their role, not a buff.

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    I'm a decent gear warrior I my weapon is arcane maul para,eye,grand most of my gear full grand mythic...

    I was in CTF in 1v1 vs rouge and literally have no chance... Rouges are stunning so much now and they have high DPS high damage I've seen rouges 2k armor and 6k+ health...

    I don't think it's fair that rouges have all these advantages and on top of that they shoot not close range battle.

    Tanks should be able to last in a fight without getting 1hit killed

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    Even with warriors using jugg!!! We still get 1hit killed!!!

    Warriors horn shield should block all stuns but we still get stunned?

    Its time to fix, buff, upgrade warriors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Coug View Post
    I've yet to see a rogue or mage with anything close to 8k health and 3k armor. I think it's safe to say you're way under-geared. I don't PvP, but I hear that wars are the best, and rogues are the worst.
    In a clash rogues are by far the worst clash. Given an equal number of anks, the team with more mages usually wins. Stacking tanks is a sure way to win almost any clash.

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    Both lol.
    The dps tanks can compare to rogues,
    And tanky tanks are just a huge slowdown to the pt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyWow View Post
    I'm a decent gear warrior I my weapon is arcane maul para,eye,grand most of my gear full grand mythic...

    I was in CTF in 1v1 vs rouge and literally have no chance... Rouges are stunning so much now and they have high DPS high damage I've seen rouges 2k armor and 6k+ health...

    I don't think it's fair that rouges have all these advantages and on top of that they shoot not close range battle.

    Tanks should be able to last in a fight without getting 1hit killed
    Mythic is level 36. We are now level 46. There's the problem. Not to mention that maul is a level 31 weapon...
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