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    Exclamation Banning Scammers

    I see many threads regarding scammers and some people also post screenies . I want to know what is done about these scammers? Do they get any penalty, warning or something at all? Or are they just not cared about?

    What if you have proof of scammers and you want something to happen. NOT to get ur stuff back but to atleast give the scammers some warning that they dont do it again. Can STS please explain a bit about this? Ive tried sending Pms to devs, because i believe Support wont do anything at all. I think messaging is more face to face kinda and that something happens if u send a message instead of a ticket in support.

    STS please explain if taking screenshots is worth it or not? I have proof and I bet many others do aswell. Its, atleast for me, not about getting stuff back because I have not lost any. There are others, more vulnerable people who have no idea on whats happening to them. I want to help them. Please enlighten me regarding the actions taken agaisnt scammers.
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    I agree with you however sadly there is no action taken against these scammers.

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    STS takes action just submit the evidence to support. The scammer can be banned but your items will not be return to you, sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado View Post
    STS takes action just submit the evidence to support. The scammer can be banned but your items will not be return to you, sadly.
    ive seen many proofs given to sts..and i see scammers wandering in towns..actually making fun of the people they scammed..

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    Yup, a player even called himself scammer, clearly mocking all those who got scammed and sts who doesnt take action against scammers. He was a very well geared warrior with the ten million gold vanity.

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    I reported time ago a scammer with ss and i still see the guy scamming more people in arlor :v

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    Ikr I'm on a current rampage over this too. As always take many ss and send details to support@spacetimestudios.com along with the time it happened and the other players ign.

    And by all means, spread the word on the names of these guys to your guild and friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candylicks View Post
    Ikr I'm on a current rampage over this too. As always take many ss and send details to support@spacetimestudios.com along with the time it happened and the other players ign.

    And by all means, spread the word on the names of these guys to your guild and friends.
    sadly im guildess atm..and people dont know me so they dont take my word..
    A new thing is that these scammers are not alone...but they have friends/partners in crime..who know that the person is a scammer..but near a crowd they all stand.up for him...which dsnt let people believe the accusation

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    Yes we do ban scammers. Please report them to support and provide the in game name as well as a description of the activity and we will investigate.
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    Need help? Please visit our Support Website at http://support.spacetimestudios.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-M View Post
    Yes we do ban scammers. Please report them to support and provide the in game name as well as a description of the activity and we will investigate.
    Apparently investigating does not lead to anything...i dont see the need to investigate when people have proofs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endkey 2.0 View Post
    Apparently investigating does not lead to anything...i dont see the need to investigate when people have proofs...
    Even with proof we still investigate before we ban someone. The proof definitely helps, but we still need to verify the activity. So please do report these players when you see them.

    The best thing you can do to combat scammers is to never give any items or gold to anyone you don't know. If you do feel you have to trade with someone you don't know, make sure you pay very close attention to what's being traded. Never ever give out your password either. Tell your friends to do the same. If someone is offering you something that sounds too good to be true, it most likely is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-M View Post
    Even with proof we still investigate before we ban someone. The proof definitely helps, but we still need to verify the activity. So please do report these players when you see them.

    The best thing you can do to combat scammers is to never give any items or gold to anyone you don't know. If you do feel you have to trade with someone you don't know, make sure you pay very close attention to what's being traded. Never ever give out your password either. Tell your friends to do the same. If someone is offering you something that sounds too good to be true, it most likely is.
    You guys may not have noticed this, but a big part of the al community is unhappy with the way scammers are deal with, eventhough getting scammed is your own fault in a way scammers are given way too much freedom. I hope there might be something you guys could do about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-M View Post
    Even with proof we still investigate before we ban someone. The proof definitely helps, but we still need to verify the activity. So please do report these players when you see them.

    The best thing you can do to combat scammers is to never give any items or gold to anyone you don't know. If you do feel you have to trade with someone you don't know, make sure you pay very close attention to what's being traded. Never ever give out your password either. Tell your friends to do the same. If someone is offering you something that sounds too good to be true, it most likely is.
    You recieve screenshots and other valid proof of the scamm, then you investigate and ban that culprit.

    Then one thing is left, due AL server is yours, you
    programmed the game, just return items to the rightful
    owner.

    Example--> You are a cardealer, one customer is interested in one of ur cars, he then ask to drive the car around the block and hands you his id card. Then swoosh he is gone
    with the car. You suddenly call the police and bla..bla.... At the end of the day the police catches this guy and tells you, sir we caught the thief but we can't handover the car to you because you should not have given him the car...wouldn't it be frustrating??

    Ontop many AL player paid real money for various items!

    Ps pardon my english im not a native speaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-M View Post
    Even with proof we still investigate before we ban someone. The proof definitely helps, but we still need to verify the activity. So please do report these players when you see them.

    The best thing you can do to combat scammers is to never give any items or gold to anyone you don't know. If you do feel you have to trade with someone you don't know, make sure you pay very close attention to what's being traded. Never ever give out your password either. Tell your friends to do the same. If someone is offering you something that sounds too good to be true, it most likely is.
    In my opinion (in MY opinion), it is stupid to investigate if there is a proof. When I got scammed during S5, i told you, about the scammer..."Ban him and his devices or he will keep scam", you just ignored me. Grats! He scammed over 50 players, made most of them quit and he still plays! (I have proofs because I've talked with him and he told it to me by himself). Scammers never have enough. Until they can scam (so until they aren't banned), thy will keep scam.

    STS should really rework their "ban system". At least, give a 7 days ban to a scammer if a proof is given+a warning message on his "Date ban will be lifted: X Hours/Days".
    There are so many scammers who keep playing actually, why? Because you don't want to ban by error or the wrong person? Right. So, I agree with you, but do your job properly beause, when a much known player tells in his Line's guild chat that he got his account and devices banned and you give as reason that he scammed but he never scammed, you just ignore him and can't give a proof that he scammed. Rework this, give us a proof that players are banned because they scammed if they ask it!

    Actually: Players are banned without any "consistent" reason and STS NEVER EVER gives proofs! Never! It is something you should really change.

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    Been playing almost 4 years and not once have I been scammed. Use common sense and don't trade in a rush. It's really not that hard to not be scammed people
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcainnblecterx View Post
    Been playing almost 4 years and not once have I been scammed. Use common sense and don't trade in a rush. It's really not that hard to not be scammed people
    Its not about complaining after being scammed..its about showing scammers that action will be taken against them if they try to scam. Im not stupid enough to be scammed..but some people arent my age or are not familiar with the way AL works...its so that they stay safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endkey 2.0 View Post
    Its not about complaining after being scammed..its about showing scammers that action will be taken against them if they try to scam. Im not stupid enough to be scammed..but some people arent my age or are not familiar with the way AL works...its so that they stay safe.
    Wasn't talking about complaining after being scammed was simply saying its not that hard to avoid getting scammed. Also lately most people that have been scammed has been because they themselves were willing to violate tos to get things such as the duplicate item glitch. I'm not saying everyone that has been scammed is because its their fault but yea its not really that hard to not get scammed
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcainnblecterx View Post
    Wasn't talking about complaining after being scammed was simply saying its not that hard to avoid getting scammed. Also lately most people that have been scammed has been because they themselves were willing to violate tos to get things such as the duplicate item glitch. I'm not saying everyone that has been scammed is because its their fault but yea its not really that hard to not get scammed
    u are experianced..i am too..but there are others out there who do not have a single idea of whats going on lol...so STS shud be the gotham police and let us be the Batman, we catch em for STS and they give em some penalty..

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcainnblecterx View Post
    Been playing almost 4 years and not once have I been scammed. Use common sense and don't trade in a rush. It's really not that hard to not be scammed people
    Wait till someone started a new way to scam and little did you know,you got scammed in a way with the scammer's sweet words and friendliness

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    It's cyclical. Right now there is a huge new crop of newly capped players that are geared and naive. Many don't have forum accounts and aren't aware of this stuff. Once we get tough by spreading the word, being diligent of reporting, and reminding friends and mates of their wiley ways it will die down again.

    StS does ban these guys, they don't like it either.

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