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    Cool Give bears a weapon or skill to break shield

    I was in a team of lvl 45-50s on the overlord boss.
    and have found that for them its impossible to stay alive long enough to break his shield so i was the only one who could survive without a tank pot.
    players no longer buy the tank pot because it costs plat now so i find my self soloing the ol i can stay alive but it just takes too long beckoning him into those barrels.
    and the old glitch behind the wall no longer works he just resets when you go out of the door. i like a challenge but this is insane now im a bear and a weapon or skill to shield break would be a great help.
    i feel sorry for these new players who cant beat the ol to unlock victory lap.
    my aim is to help those players in need but without a good archer its too much without shield break its s
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    It would overpower bears. The fact that they can withstand most punishment from bosses/other players, WITH the ability to break shields (mana shields for example) would completely make bears unstoppable and unbalanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by braluk View Post
    It would overpower bears. The fact that they can withstand most punishment from bosses/other players, WITH the ability to break shields (mana shields for example) would completely make bears unstoppable and unbalanced.
    Lol have you played as a bear in lvl50+ pvp they suck
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    Arent Lances/spears supposed to break shield??

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    What about force cutter of the rift?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drak3 View Post
    Arent Lances/spears supposed to break shield??
    No they only break armour not shields

    and what the force cutter of rift lol
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    Spears, lances, harpoons, force cutters, and blackmetal claymores break armor (lowers armors), but the OP is talking about the Overlord's " mana shield", which can only be broken by blast shot, or a barrel. Same goes with mage's mana shield.

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    true.. i guess shud read it fully before replyin

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    So we now want bears to have HP, Dodge and a shield break? I'm going to have to agree this would just be a bit too much. Bears have quite a bit going for them already (I've heard the report that they suck in PvP at high levels). I know bears got dodge (from birds) as a sort of rebalance, so if bears want a break shield then give dodge back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thugimmortal View Post
    I was in a team of lvl 45-50s on the overlord boss.
    I think many people are foolished in thinking that, if Blast Shot takes down Overlord shield and Mage Mana shield, the new skill capability for bears should do the same. But It was NOT thugimmortal asked; he only wants a way to get ride of Overlord shield with no necessary impact on PvP, and I support his proposal.

    OL is the only boss that requires a specific breed to be present for clearing, and it is an unmotivated difference (I think recent changes in OL attacks drive in that direction, that is requiring a support team for birds to kill the boss).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamino View Post
    I think many people are foolished in thinking that, if Blast Shot takes down Overlord shield and Mage Mana shield, the new skill capability for bears should do the same. But It was NOT thugimmortal asked; he only wants a way to get ride of Overlord shield with no necessary impact on PvP, and I support his proposal.

    OL is the only boss that requires a specific breed to be present for clearing, and it is an unmotivated difference (I think recent changes in OL attacks drive in that direction, that is requiring a support team for birds to kill the boss).
    Yeah im not fussed about pvp just the overlord.
    its not fair for the new players without a tank pot they just cant do him
    the overlord is harder than any boss in game without a break shield
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    Quote Originally Posted by thugimmortal View Post
    Yeah im not fussed about pvp just the overlord.
    its not fair for the new players without a tank pot they just cant do him
    the overlord is harder than any boss in game without a break shield
    Well that is a different question than I thought it was initially, but the same concerns about PvP would still apply. The only feasable way I can think of would be for the devs to actually alter the OL, because anything else would transfer over into PvP (new skills, weapons with break shield).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gluttony View Post
    Well that is a different question than I thought it was initially, but the same concerns about PvP would still apply. The only feasable way I can think of would be for the devs to actually alter the OL, because anything else would transfer over into PvP (new skills, weapons with break shield).
    im sure they could make a weapon/skill with shield break where the proc only worked in pve
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    Quote Originally Posted by thugimmortal View Post
    Lol have you played as a bear in lvl50+ pvp they suck
    Have you played lvl50+ pvp? He's always in a game there.

    I do think this would make them semi OP, unless that skill was melee range like CB, or a bit shorter. Needs to be very hard to hit, but not impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thugimmortal View Post
    im sure they could make a weapon/skill with shield break where the proc only worked in pve
    Yes, I'm sure they could but it seems like quite a bit of work in order to fix a small oversight. It would force the devs to implement a new item, it would have to drop in a certain area (AO3 perhaps), it also really would fix the issue of screening a team for an OL run (unless this new item has an exclusive look).

    Also, elixirs are coming back withe 1.7.2 so that could put this issue to rest:
    http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...-Version-1.7.2

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    U can still use barrels to break shield right? and a bear can beckon/stomp OL around easy enuf to get him to the barrels so u dont HAVE to have a bird present to kill OL just takes more thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spookytooth View Post
    U can still use barrels to break shield right? and a bear can beckon/stomp OL around easy enuf to get him to the barrels so u dont HAVE to have a bird present to kill OL just takes more thought.
    Yeah but by the time the poor old bear sprints up to attack his shield goes back up.
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