PvP is difficult to balance because of HYBRIDS !!

[haroldiv]

Lol, conceptually yes except sword birds are the absolute worst pvp class.

[Sayishere]

Wait, if you are an archer, and u use 2h swords, blast shot works from a distance? THAT should definiteily be removed

i never knew that, i have seen a few 2 hander birds now, if thats the case that should be nerfed yup

btw i fought some good people and lost to them, this one mage in particular is very good, im telling you people should invest less time complaining and just have fun and try and find ways to beat others imo.

[Banned]

Wait, if you are an archer, and u use 2h swords, blast shot works from a distance? THAT should definiteily be removed

That would screw over dagger archers soooo... no.

[Dizko]

That would screw over dagger archers soooo... no.

Do you throw these daggers, kind sir?

[Banned]

Do you throw these daggers, kind sir?

Talons. And also, if you noticed, the blash shot animation is an arrow being thrown so I assume it's meant to be like that.

Just stop with the nerfing bull guys, it's becoming really frustrating. I am tired of seeing all these complaints, it's starting to ruin the game for me. The whole thing has basically turned into a giant nerf convention. What's good for one person isn't always good for everyone else.

[Justg]

Hybrids are something that make the game very flexible and enable you to play in a wide variety of ways. PvP is brand-new and going to take awhile to find its best form. Be patient and keep offering constructive feedback. Btw I fixed that thread title for ya

[Banned]

Hybrids are something that make the game very flexible and enable you to play in a wide variety of ways. PvP is brand-new and going to take awhile to find its best form. Be patient and keep offering constructive feedback. Btw I fixed that thread title for ya

I am extremely glad to hear you say that.

[Ogediah]

Removing hybrids is not the answer.

EDIT: posted without reading the whole thread... I ban myself for such a noob move.

[Azrael]

Lol, conceptually yes except sword birds are the absolute worst pvp class.

They are actually quite nasty burst damage with 2h. Probably top 3 in classes. Allowing armor hybriding is one thing, but letting any weapon work with skills regardless of range is wrong on so many levels.

As long as unrestricted hybrids are in the game, class combat will never be balanced and PvP will never be taken seriously. I'm always checking to see what games are running in pvp at level 35. Most of the time there are no games, and when there is one or two games, there are about 4-5 people playing. The lack of popularity in pvp speaks for itself.

Edit: that said, the cooldown buff situation is the most troubling aspect of pvp.

[Hraefn]

Lag is what causes me to stay away from PvP, not the lack of balance.

[Azrael]

Lag is what causes me to stay away from PvP, not the lack of balance.

most people don't lag. Try wifi. If your latency is over 300, its your connection, not the game. You should experience more lag in pve with 5 players and all the mobs, than a pvp match thats 2 on 2.

[Sayishere]

most people don't lag. Try wifi. If your latency is over 300, its your connection, not the game. You should experience more lag in pve with 5 players and all the mobs, than a pvp match thats 2 on 2.

2 on 2 is fine, the 5 on 5 gets horrible slow down for me!

[SlipperyJim]

Personally, I don't believe the hybrid classes are ideal for anything other than PvP. Playing a bow bear or a bow mage in PvE, you will quickly run out of mana. The bow bird has meditation for a reason, most importantly to offset low mana regen of DEX gear.

Mamboza's Croc Scale Leather. Get some.

I had Mamboza's Croc Scale Leather for my archer, but I'm playing a straight-up Avian Archer, so it wasn't useful for me. Meditation takes care of my mana needs. However, a bow-bear or a bowchantress with Mamboza's Croc Scale Leather would be pretty awesome....

Hybrids are something that make the game very flexible and enable you to play in a wide variety of ways. PvP is brand-new and going to take awhile to find its best form. Be patient and keep offering constructive feedback. Btw I fixed that thread title for ya

You're awesome. Reject the haters and go easy with the nerfs. The complainers will get tired of complaining eventually....

[Banned]

most people don't lag. Try wifi. If your latency is over 300, its your connection, not the game. You should experience more lag in pve with 5 players and all the mobs, than a pvp match thats 2 on 2.

Ummm, I use wifi with an average of 70-130 ping. It's the game.

[Azrael]

70-130 ping is great latency. Nothing wrong with the game there.

[Banned]

70-130 ping is great latency. Nothing wrong with the game there.

It is great. Yet I still lag like a mother fo. It's the game.

[King Richie]

thats framerate dropping not lag !!

[Banned]

thats framerate dropping not lag !!

I know. I normally associate slow and coppy gameplay with the word lag.

[Kooderna]

I didnt even bother reading these replies after seeing the name of this post. Any clever birdy or sword wielding chantredd csn kill u once ,aybe twice max then are out of mana. End of story, you then go up to them and kill them and just play back and forth. Mana is a huge factor to hybrids minus clever birdy. You need to realize the devs work hard yes, and we all love them for it, BUT as it stands NOW pvp is broken in more than just HYBRIDS so its hard to say thats the On,y thing thats making it no fun. Itll take time but pvp will have its place in the meantime hybrids make this game.


Note: i do not play hybrid builds, im pure dps full int build chantress. But i do appreciate those who do

[Away]

The devs already said that hybrids bring more option and freedom in the game.
This game is only in it's early stages, so don't expect PvP to be perfect.
Expect some nerfs though.