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    Might sound funny, but I'm actually finding it easier to know distance from my iPad, made sister hide it for a good two weeks so I could study.

    Things seem to be picking up, same things still happen occasionally, but they're bound to.

    One quick question to mages, is there such a thing as double frozen? I've experienced a few times, a mage freezes me but continues to normal attack, but I still can't move. 0.0

    Last I remember, attacking a frozen target breaks freeze no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    Might sound funny, but I'm actually finding it easier to know distance from my iPad, made sister hide it for a good two weeks so I could study.

    Things seem to be picking up, same things still happen occasionally, but they're bound to.

    One quick question to mages, is there such a thing as double frozen? I've experienced a few times, a mage freezes me but continues to normal attack, but I still can't move. 0.0

    Last I remember, attacking a frozen target breaks freeze no?
    Not in PvP. I've got a few tips on how I PvP with range opponents. but the bad items I use tend to lay me down. I PM-ed you my tips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLaw View Post
    Not in PvP. I've got a few tips on how I PvP with range opponents. but the bad items I use tend to lay me down. I PM-ed you my tips.
    So there IS a double-freeze, just not in PvP?

    And thanks

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    Im new to this pvp thing too, Elly. Thanks for making this thread because it answers alot of questions people in game won't. I've been told that drainers combined with fortified crown is a good combo for bears. Also the raid/custom autobow as others have mentioned.

    But as Thug mentioned, I have a hard time doing something when I die as soon as I spawn on the screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    So there IS a double-freeze, just not in PvP?

    And thanks
    No, I'm pretty sure freeze doesn't break on damage. Only if you combo while frozen. Aka firestorm, or stomp, or any weapon that has a fire attack will break freeze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Im new to this pvp thing too, Elly. Thanks for making this thread because it answers alot of questions people in game won't. I've been told that drainers combined with fortified crown is a good combo for bears. Also the raid/custom autobow as others have mentioned.

    But as Thug mentioned, I have a hard time doing something when I die as soon as I spawn on the screen.
    No worries, I was looking for help more than anything too anyway

    I've tried full drainers, and prefer it actually. I'm not sure what the Fort Crown would do better than a Drainers Cap, since the point of wearing Drainers would be the dodge and armour.

    I also tried switching between Autobow/Recurve sets, and IMO, I like recurves better because of that one reason why autobows are so hard to perfectly use in PvP, its keeping the perfect range that only the autobow (assuming your wearing one and your target isn't) can attack.

    Because of that reason, I prefer Recurves because of how fast they attack and the additional base damage they have. Faster attack would maximise Rage more, and more base damage is always good for skills


    Quote Originally Posted by Sun View Post
    No, I'm pretty sure freeze doesn't break on damage. Only if you combo while frozen. Aka firestorm, or stomp, or any weapon that has a fire attack will break freeze.
    Ah, no wonder! Thanks!

    Does the gemstone wand proc count as a proc if frozen?

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    Honestly....Id have to say ur toast if ur beckon misses.

    If u were pvping a bird they could:

    thorn root u to take out ur dodge
    break ur armor
    combo
    take away ur hit and add more dmg with blinding
    and then repulse and thorn wall u

    Imo....even tho ull possibly called a coward....is to stomp and run till beckon cools down.
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    @Elly: Good to know. Will have to try it out tonight.

    Question for anyone: does it hurt that I do not have heal as a skill? Because I am a pve'r 99% of the time I neglect this skill to maximize others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    @Elly: Good to know. Will have to try it out tonight.

    Question for anyone: does it hurt that I do not have heal as a skill? Because I am a pve'r 99% of the time I neglect this skill to maximize others.
    Personal preference I think

    5 more HS or about 10 more damage from a slash. The way I see it, 5 more HS in a fort set is about 15% more HS for 5 seconds, not great, but it's one point anyway.

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    Not 100% sure, but I think that only fire attacks undo freeze. So fire blast and attacks from a fire based weapon. They will usually combo ("ice melt" for wands, and the more potent "face melt" for staffs) when using a fire weapon and "hot flash" for fire blast.

    On the other hand, I think repulse from friendly target also undoes freeze.

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    Something I just thought of: I know snowball launchers are popular in lower level pvp. Why are they not a good option in upper level (50+)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Something I just thought of: I know snowball launchers are popular in lower level pvp. Why are they not a good option in upper level (50+)?
    They are way too low damage for that level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post

    Maybe its the price bears pay for twink PvP? Doesn't make sense though, end-game PvP suffers for twink PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    I also tried switching between Autobow/Recurve sets, and IMO, I like recurves better because of that one reason why autobows are so hard to perfectly use in PvP, its keeping the perfect range that only the autobow (assuming your wearing one and your target isn't) can attack.

    Because of that reason, I prefer Recurves because of how fast they attack and the additional base damage they have. Faster attack would maximise Rage more, and more base damage is always good for skills
    Recuve works a lot better than auto bow for dex bears, since you would want ur enemy to be close to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noobmigo View Post
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    Bears rule at 10, 15, 20, that's it.
    Mages and Birds the rest of the way.
    Id have to disagree with this point.

    I demoed complete dominance between the lvls 1-40 and 50-53.
    (having the most kills and least deaths compared to the other classes)
    So i do believe bears rule can last longer if u play it rite.xD
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