Yet another idea to revive interest in elite

[ilhanna]

Yes, I'm well aware that the topic of elite revival had been raised before (for example in this thread by Serancha, in this post by Energizeric, Kingmartin had also made suggestions on this issue in Remiem's weekly update). I'm also aware of STS response to these suggestions. But bear with me.

The thing is, for me, and I'm sure for a lot of elite enthusiasts, the highlight of 2015 was not an event organized and run by STS. It's Kalizzaa's Tour of Arlor. And it wasn't because of any specific reward. There wasn't any event pet or event gear. Nothing to make money off apart from what you looted in your runs. But for me it was a lot of fun just because it gave me a reason to run elite. A lot.

The initiator and organizers of that contest had retired so I doubt there will be a repeat of Kalizzaa's ToA. But here's where STS can step in and do something.

As it is now, most of elite maps apart from Ren'gol and Wilds are deserted. In Ren'gol people just farm the mobs and don't kill the bosses, because there is no justifiable reward for it. But this, and the fact that the maps are untimed, means a lot of times people enter a map only to find the mobs wiped out and everyone leaving. Elite has never ever ever been this annoying before.

The question of reward is also an issue here. With events supplying the majority of legendary pets and gear, what could be gained by running elite? A lot of endgame players feel the Glintstone mythic quest isn't worth the stat loss, hassle and cost for a glittery pedicure and AP and so we have even fewer runners interested in mining Ren'gol maps for fangs. You end up with capped people saying "Don't bother running elite. Farm KM3 and buy everything." You end up having players lying dormant between events or get bored and quit (the last Syrillax event had the lowest level of guild activity I've seen during major event). This isn't what had kept me interested and playing for over two years.

So here are some of my ideas.

1. New elite titles and achievements. If pvp players get titles for killing a certain number of opponents, why can't pve players get titles for killing a certain number of enemies too? You can even make them specific to certain enemies, for example Wolf Slayer, which you only get after killing, let's say 10k Shuyal wolves.

2. Elite dailies. There is the quest to kill 40 elite Nordr bosses. Can we have reward as well for killing 40 elite Tindirin, Shuyal, Planar Tomb and Rengol bosses? Reward can be weak/standard primary jewels, or even crafting components. (Or elite tokens, like orc tags, that you can use to purchase things).

3. Have elite bosses drop high tier jewels.

4. Rare portals. Make it so that killing an elite boss gives players a chance to enter a special ground with special boss, or old bosses that drop valuables (for example, like Gauntlet bosses they can drop ankhs, or elixirs, etc). Have the special ground spawn random bosses so you never know who you're going to meet when you get there. Make it so that the portal has much higher chance of opening from harder elite bosses so people won't be spamming elite Brackenridge to get one.

Bottom line is, a lot of players love running elite, but currently there isn't any incentive to do it. And Arlor is a beautiful world. Why waste the resources that go into those older elite maps by letting them stay unappealing and empty? And I want to play between events and have my friends there playing too instead of just seeing them on Line chat. And seriously if 2016 is going to be just another series of big events (with vanity reward) interspersed with Gauntlets, I don't see much left to keep me interested in playing.

Revamp the elites, please.

[Candylicks]

All they need to do is scale elites and refresh loot tables more often. It's so simple yet they are adamant they ain't going to do it!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is my addition to your ideas:

1. Make new loot StS!!!! You have amazing art department, have them create elite zone vanity drops. Then, those old discontinued red eggs. Have them drop too in old elite maps.

2. Scale those baddies up so they are hard to run, and way more fun.

3. Everyone likes to open locked chests. What about those farmable keys we talked about and you considered a couple years back? Have them drop oh so seldom but would give farmers never ending item to farm!

As someone who quit AL because of this, what Hanna is posting should be high priority in this game. Good post Hanna, you are a great member of the community.

[mesalin]

Nice idea! I would like if boss will drop damaged or atleast weak jewel( primary stat ofc.
we have enough of lightning, diamond , nature and water jewel.)
Or just make them that every elite drop other jewels. Like brack drop water , Ydra nature etc etc.

[Edward Coug]

2. Scale those baddies up so they are hard to run, and way more fun.

I've pretty much stopped playing as well. The only way I will come back is if they make a super elite mode that most players can't finish. The rewards could be recolored vanities. Or nothing at all. A new set of leaderboards would be enough. I just need a challenge.

I would love to play an insanely difficult version of all of the old maps.

[Intous]

I'm +1 to everything you said, this game is supposed to be more Pve-ish but everyone just pvps, no one runs Elite (few ppl excluded).
StS you need to encourage farming.
TBH i find it boring to run elites, since it's only a waste of time -.-

[ilhanna]

3. Everyone likes to open locked chests. What about those farmable keys we talked about and you considered a couple years back? Have them drop oh so seldom but would give farmers never ending item to farm!

So they had considered farmable locked keys? It's actually a great idea because, if implemented, it can sustain both elite and locked farmers. But even if they changed their mind, it doesn't mean they can leave old elites languishing like they are now.

[ilhanna]

I'm +1 to everything you said, this game is supposed to be more Pve-ish but everyone just pvps, no one runs Elite (few ppl excluded).
StS you need to encourage farming.
TBH i find it boring to run elites, since it's only a waste of time -.-

It didn't use to be a waste of time (and pots/lix/ankhs). I remember farming eggs at cap 36, farming Tarewa for magma sword/lurk egg/elite golden dragon chest. It was fun and potentially profitable; fun being my priority really. I'm not even pro like many rogues here in forums, but the challenge, and that awesome feel when you can work with your party to overcome it, it's addictive.

[Dimitrian]

Please sts do something about elites...


Amazing ideas BTW

[faithpece]

Yes, I'm well aware that the topic of elite revival had been raised before (for example in this thread by Serancha, in this post by Energizeric, Kingmartin had also made suggestions on this issue in Remiem's weekly update). I'm also aware of STS response to these suggestions. But bear with me.

The thing is, for me, and I'm sure for a lot of elite enthusiasts, the highlight of 2015 was not an event organized and run by STS. It's Kalizzaa's Tour of Arlor. And it wasn't because of any specific reward. There wasn't any event pet or event gear. Nothing to make money off apart from what you looted in your runs. But for me it was a lot of fun just because it gave me a reason to run elite. A lot.

The initiator and organizers of that contest had retired so I doubt there will be a repeat of Kalizzaa's ToA. But here's where STS can step in and do something.

As it is now, most of elite maps apart from Ren'gol and Wilds are deserted. In Ren'gol people just farm the mobs and don't kill the bosses, because there is no justifiable reward for it. But this, and the fact that the maps are untimed, means a lot of times people enter a map only to find the mobs wiped out and everyone leaving. Elite has never ever ever been this annoying before.

The question of reward is also an issue here. With events supplying the majority of legendary pets and gear, what could be gained by running elite? A lot of endgame players feel the Glintstone mythic quest isn't worth the stat loss, hassle and cost for a glittery pedicure and AP and so we have even fewer runners interested in mining Ren'gol maps for fangs. You end up with capped people saying "Don't bother running elite. Farm KM3 and buy everything." You end up having players lying dormant between events or get bored and quit (the last Syrillax event had the lowest level of guild activity I've seen during major event). This isn't what had kept me interested and playing for over two years.

So here are some of my ideas.

1. New elite titles and achievements. If pvp players get titles for killing a certain number of opponents, why can't pve players get titles for killing a certain number of enemies too? You can even make them specific to certain enemies, for example Wolf Slayer, which you only get after killing, let's say 10k Shuyal wolves.

2. Elite dailies. There is the quest to kill 40 elite Nordr bosses. Can we have reward as well for killing 40 elite Tindirin, Shuyal, Planar Tomb and Rengol bosses? Reward can be weak/standard primary jewels, or even crafting components. (Or elite tokens, like orc tags, that you can use to purchase things).

3. Have elite bosses drop high tier jewels.

4. Rare portals. Make it so that killing an elite boss gives players a chance to enter a special ground with special boss, or old bosses that drop valuables (for example, like Gauntlet bosses they can drop ankhs, or elixirs, etc). Have the special ground spawn random bosses so you never know who you're going to meet when you get there. Make it so that the portal has much higher chance of opening from harder elite bosses so people won't be spamming elite Brackenridge to get one.

Bottom line is, a lot of players love running elite, but currently there isn't any incentive to do it. And Arlor is a beautiful world. Why waste the resources that go into those older elite maps by letting them stay unappealing and empty? And I want to play between events and have my friends there playing too instead of just seeing them on Line chat. And seriously if 2016 is going to be just another series of big events (with vanity reward) interspersed with Gauntlets, I don't see much left to keep me interested in playing.

Revamp the elites, please.

Thanks So Much for the Post.,. I feel the same...

Every time i enter Elite gnomish ruins, all MOBS are Gone.. no one in the map bother to kill the boss,.

Where in the fun is in killing the boss.. Killing Elite King can give you essence of the beast, easy money..

I like the suggestion..

and in fact there should be World Boss Event where in whole AL community can help killing the boss,. same as opening flame stones to open the Brood.

It would be so fun.. and with good reward depending upon. damage, time taken, or whatever ,,