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    Default The new weapons stats need fixing

    At least for the daggers, you lose 36 damage from switching from a bow...STG, can you please rethink the stats? I haven't gotten a chance to check out the staff yet but I will update as soon as I find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    At least for the daggers, you lose 36 damage from switching from a bow...STG, can you please rethink the stats? These aren't even worthy to be called arcane right now. The warrior weapon isn't much better either, the damage stats are the exact same as glintstone maul with more DPS. I haven't gotten a chance to check out the staff yet but I will update as soon as I find out.
    Could you please post a skill damage comparison between bow and daggers? If possible aimed shot range as per skills menu.
    Thank you in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    At least for the daggers, you lose 36 damage from switching from a bow...
    How is the proc compared to that of the bow? Is it better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzi View Post
    Could you please post a skill damage comparison between bow and daggers? If possible aimed shot range as per skills menu.
    Thank you in advance!
    The difference is about 90 in skill damage, I cannot give an entirely accurate comparison because bow is gemmed while daggers are not, but even factoring that in...the daggers are a nonviable choice. I hope that this will be looked into and fixed.

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    How is the proc compared to that of the bow? Is it better?
    No, not for what you give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    The difference is about 200 in skill damage, I cannot give an entirely accurate comparison because bow is gemmed while daggers are not, but even factoring that in...the daggers are a waste of everybody's time. I'm extremely disappointed, personally.



    No, not for what you give up.
    So 200 more damage is favour of the daggers then? And that without gems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzi View Post
    So 200 more damage is favour of the daggers then? And that without gems?

    HAHA, good joke. No, the 200 skill damage is in favor of bow. If you equip daggers, you lose 200 skill damage. That is a gemmed bow compared to a clean daggers. However, even if you factor in gems, it will still be a 150+ skill damage difference.
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    Truth they are horrible

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    Staff is 54 more damage, 200 more HP compared to gun of same gems...
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    Nothing to do now they released weapons now most probably they will not buff anything. Warrior weapon is good for pve 100%stun

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    So just as I thought sts didn't have time for the daggers and just released something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzi View Post
    So just as I thought sts didn't have time for the daggers and just released something
    Yep, and the warrior weapon's proc spawns lava pools that do the damage equivalent of SnS pools. So, rogues are pretty much severely shafted on these weapons. Not only did the other classes get substantially more powerful, we got weaker and didn't progress at all!
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    warriors in front make little sense maybe haha

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    I know this will probably get deleted again, but what can I say.. Some people never learn. There is something totally wrong with gear releases in this game in general. No testing, no long-term planning, no nothing.

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    You're wrong :S, they have changed weapons in the past due to considerable complaints, they don't do it lightly of course,

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    Staff suck lol
    Skill dmg is much lower compare to gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by sevenpain View Post
    Staff suck lol
    Skill dmg is much lower compare to gun
    At least a portion of it is better than gun, but I do agree. All these weapons need a considerable buff ESPECIALLY the daggers.
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    The arcane dagger is the weakest weapon comparing damage.


     
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    So I tested the daggers extensively. Firstly about the skill damage: about 200 less than mythic bows and only 42 more than glinstone daggers (a weapon which is 300 k gold atm). So one might think: "Oh, ok fair enough the skill damage is crap, but hey we got this incredibly nice proc which reduces the armour by 35%". Alas the proc is very very rare and I got 1 per arena run on average (not per boss, per whole run), although I was spamming auto attack all the time.

    So as a conclusion sts made fake arcane daggers and to be completely honest I am insulted here: We have an alleged arcane, which is inferior to the lower rarity weapons and a proc which never procs (albeit it sound great on "paper"). Does sts think that we are all that stupid? I am confused

    In my honest opinion those daggers were not thought through at all, let alone tested

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    yes, more information is coming in from some of my friends are they literally felt like they got trolled with the new daggers... they're not worthy of being called Arcane! STS do something fast! The procs of the mage and warrior's weapons are better than this... these dags have nothing to show for!
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    The mages got the best end of this deal that's for sure

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