eCONOMY

[Titanium]

Hello STS,


How would a STS developer would feel if he/she works hard for couple of months to get bonuses from work so he/she can finally afford his dream car ? And after buying it , ( for example VOLKSWAGEN ) next day to find out that it costs -50% less ?

It's time to really find game consultants which they know how to test new items and how to make the economy keep up with these new items.. Because what happend this week... is just beyond my limits of understanding. STS decides to release arcane daggers , which were supposed to make mythic bow look like something much less used by people who want to be op. Let's remember before the arcane daggers were released.. the fervor bow clean costed 4-5m less . So after releasing the daggers, what happens? The old mythic product is better than the new arcane product . Supply and demand and bows's price are increasing in next 24hours ! And then " guys wait wait ! we just find out that daggers are not good for their rarity ! Monday expect a fix ". Price is decreasing drastically ... like second time in 2 weeks of same product.

On another hand. Brood crates were supposed to cost more than 3x rengol crates. STS should think before releasing some shocking news to the world. Like how to protect their costumers investements more than 2 months. Not all MMOs are like this. Please don't tell me I'm wrong. You are supposed to farm to make gold and then buy your dream item... and after some shocking news... boom! your item costs nothing. You worked for nothing. You did a good job farming rengol crates... now people can open more.

Besides having nothing to farm in game after releasing awesome news about lvl 56 . Everybody gave up farming fangs. Why to farm them ? What to do in game? I rather stay on forum and do the same thing like everybody else. Waiting for more shocking news . Do you feel me?

[Titanium]

This thread is not about me. I'm expressing my cocerns about the economy flow. I hope I'm going to be accused less of game changing devaluations and other ghosts and monsters . Narrow minds won't understand my thread. I don't blame them doe !

[mesalin]

Finally somebody speak the truth!

<Forgiveness>

[chummier248]

i fill you bro i bought maridos for 1.7m and now it drops to 1m im planning on quiting this game i also lost real money

[kinzmet]

i fill you bro i bought maridos for 1.7m and now it drops to 1m im planning on quiting this game i also lost real money

I bought arcane ring for 35m now its 2m O.o"

[Darwinb1995]

I bought arcane ring for 35m now its 2m O.o"

😂😂😂😂😂😂 I was going dumb *** but now Feel sorry for u 😂😂😂😁😏😛

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Remember that arcane ring was once 130m+.

[Potato is me]

Remember that arcane ring was once 130m+.

Or sns egg +40m

[kinzmet]

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LOL its all worth it at that time, I was making a point on chummier248's post that he would quit the game since he bought 1.7m maridos and the prize drops to 1m.

[steversj]

i agree man , another thing that isnt fair that if u spend a lot of money in sts then u decide to open some type of lock , and if u get something crappy you basically just waisted your money on sts , you gaved away your money to sts , thats bull man , sts is just hungry for money , and are you serious 40 plat to open a jewel chest -.- like how pathetic can they get

[kinzmet]

But its really depends on the merching intuition, sometimes I lose golds but most of the time I win.

Nothing is ever certain in Live games. We take our best guess, but until something gets out into the wild we really don't know how it will be used with the near-infinite combinations that exist.

[Michael Woolley]

The problem lies within the rarity of the item and its supply/demand. As of the rengol expansion they made arcane and mythic more available. Of course when an item of arcane comes out there are so many people that want that item immediately so they pay big coin for it. My advice to people is let the item settle its price for a bit before u buy even if it takes a month or 2. Mythic and arcane rarity seems to be like the old legendary. I believe also that they are bringing out a new type of rarity I read in the q16 letter. Correct me if I'm wrong hopefully this is like the old arcane but items won't be too op.

[oekeone]

I feel you titanium I farmed up like 300+ recipes and till now I've got 213 brood crates and the left of recipes and till now just noticed there like 25k or something that's a disappointment I mean now large rengol cost more than brood crates but on the good side in a few months it will increase so don't be to upset all this happened cause more and more items are available to any player who buys and opens crates so opening more crates the cs/auc floods up with all these new items and arcane which become cheap and makes everything cheap I really like when things are cheap cause I get to buy my dream items and if things like this happens we will never earn money since everything is cheap I mean I will love it if the arcane weapons where farmable so we can make money out of it , I understand sts needs to earn profit so they can pay the employees but I'm guessing a better way they can earn money is if they made chest for jewels like the jewel chest which drops standard and above it will be good for the ones who buy plat and maybe add some new vanities and plat purchasable pets in my opinion

[Dragoonclaws]

Titanium... tbh all these price raise and drop are very normal. Nobody can really predict them. I invite everyone to do like me and wait until things are stable before buying or selling any item.

You will either loose money or not. Regarding new weapons, new ones are usually better and expect bug fixes and buff/nerfs. If you don't sell your weapon, the value will go down anyways and that's very predictable. Now the first days for the new item are never sure. it might go very high, or very low in few days.

Want a real example? How about buying a new PC or a new phone? You might want to wait for the reviews to go out so you know if you buy the new phone or not. Regarding stock market, nobody REALLY knows how things will go. Regarding Volkswagen, it took the company one year for them to get stabbed with a 20-30% value loss. Yep, they knew about the scandal for a long while before taking action.

StS should be worrying about the items value. it's all about the players. They don't have direct control over the auction. They can't start thinking about releasing or not because the market value and all those problems. However, browsing forums is a good way to know what is going to happen and how things will go. Remiem did inform players about the arrival of new arcane weapons and expansion in November or December I think. I will have to check that out...

TBH Titanium if everyone was aware of everything that was going to happen... how better is the economy going to be? How better the merch is going to be? Less sudden highs/lows? New items will still have an insane value at the beginning and their value will drop and make the older items value less... unless it's an egg, a vanity or a discontinued item. Want to know the truth? You'll always be the loser if you don't pay plats.

[oekeone]

Titanium... tbh all these price raise and drop are very normal. Nobody can really predict them. I invite everyone to do like me and wait until things are stable before buying or selling any item.

You will either loose money or not. Regarding new weapons, new ones are usually better and expect bug fixes and buff/nerfs. If you don't sell your weapon, the value will go down anyways and that's very predictable. Now the first days for the new item are never sure. it might go very high, or very low in few days.

Want a real example? How about buying a new PC or a new phone? You might want to wait for the reviews to go out so you know if you buy the new phone or not. Regarding stock market, nobody REALLY knows how things will go. Regarding Volkswagen, it took the company one year for them to get stabbed with a 20-30% value loss. Yep, they knew about the scandal for a long while before taking action.

StS should be worrying about the items value. it's all about the players. They don't have direct control over the auction. They can't start thinking about releasing or not because the market value and all those problems. However, browsing forums is a good way to know what is going to happen and how things will go. Remiem did inform players about the arrival of new arcane weapons and expansion in November or December I think. I will have to check that out...

TBH Titanium if everyone was aware of everything that was going to happen... how better is the economy going to be? How better the merch is going to be? Less sudden highs/lows? New items will still have an insane value at the beginning and their value will drop and make the older items value less... unless it's an egg, a vanity or a discontinued item. Want to know the truth? You'll always be the loser if you don't pay plats.

Yes so true last year in the birthday event arcane pets reached 800k!! And fossil like 700k-900k

[Eagleye]

"And after buying it , ( for example VOLKSWAGEN ) next day to find out that it costs -50% less ?"

You must have never purchased a car because that's actual exactly what happens...value instantly decreases the second that car comes off the lot. This is a video game and it's yours and everyone else's choice to spend real money. The devs have nothing to do with how much we as players are willing to pay and not pay for items . New content comes and old become obsolete it's just the way the world works. Believe me when I say prices and value of things dont just drammitcally change over night in AL, this happens quite often in the real world as well. Sh** or get off the pot man

[Titanium]

"And after buying it , ( for example VOLKSWAGEN ) next day to find out that it costs -50% less ?"

You must have never purchased a car because that's actual exactly what happens...value instantly decreases the second that car comes off the lot. This is a video game and it's yours and everyone else's choice to spend real money. The devs have nothing to do with how much we as players are willing to pay and not pay for items . New content comes and old become obsolete it's just the way the world works. Believe me when I say prices and value of things dont just drammitcally change over night in AL, this happens quite often in the real world as well. Sh** or get off the pot man

As a company you won't let all your products to lose their value over night then increase and then decrease again. Is this real life? when the economy looks like a montagne russe. Let's say you can fail once as a company with a product, twice... but this starts to be annoying. Check prices of all mythic level 46. ALL of them. It's so damn easy to see how their value decreased significantly. If tomorrow STS releases more news about upgradeable mythic set. Fangs are going to cost 2x more than they cost now. Should i add the medium cake frenzy?

[Zynzyn]

"And after buying it , ( for example VOLKSWAGEN ) next day to find out that it costs -50% less ?"

You must have never purchased a car because that's actual exactly what happens...value instantly decreases the second that car comes off the lot. This is a video game and it's yours and everyone else's choice to spend real money. The devs have nothing to do with how much we as players are willing to pay and not pay for items . New content comes and old become obsolete it's just the way the world works. Believe me when I say prices and value of things dont just drammitcally change over night in AL, this happens quite often in the real world as well. Sh** or get off the pot man

I agree with most of what you have said but I also get Titanium's point of view. While it is normal and acceptable for the market to be fluctuating and for newer items to devalue older ones, the time span between new items needs to be more or less stable and this factor can be controlled by sts. For example the Brood Locked Crates. I fail to understand what exactly that gimmick was. Shall we call it a fiasco or a joke? Did those event crates and the loot inside even have a shelf-life? Its just an example of utter disregard for customer investments.

So my point is, yes we accept "in with the new out with the old" notion. BUT let us follow this, while keeping in mind that players should atleast have some time to enjoy the benefits of what they have acquired. Even in the real world, the expiry date of an item is predictable. In AL atleast lets make new releases at regular intervals instead of doing it all haphazard.

[bonjovi3223]

I agree with most of what you have said but I also get Titanium's point of view. While it is normal and acceptable for the market to be fluctuating and for newer items to devalue older ones, the time span between new items needs to be more or less stable and this factor can be controlled by sts. For example the Brood Locked Crates. I fail to understand what exactly that gimmick was. Shall we call it a fiasco or a joke? Did those event crates and the loot inside even have a shelf-life? Its just an example of utter disregard for customer investments.

So my point is, yes we accept "in with the new out with the old" notion. BUT let us follow this, while keeping in mind that players should atleast have some time to enjoy the benefits of what they have acquired. Even in the real world, the expiry date of an item is predictable. In AL atleast lets make new releases at regular intervals instead of doing it all haphazard.

Well said bro.
The shelf life of items should be much longer then what was done with the sudden release of items.
I personally think that the main problem in prices has been caused by the forthcoming expansion & the fact that the lvl gap had a difference of 10 levels. A shorter lvl gap would keep items viable but a 10 lvl difference annhilates their effectivity stats wise.
Brood lock weapons would have been viable if not for the sudden expansion as not everyone can afford arcane weapons.
I myself have been contemplating on buying an imbued helm since last few days but i am just worried how effective a lv41 helm will be at lv56 & whether the 2m+ investment will be worth it.

[Iuxor]

And to play on more real life scenarios... Automobile manufacturers often release new cars(weapons) only to find out shortly after that they must recall that said item(arcane car) due to a flaw or consumer dislike... Therefor "theoretically" lowering the desirability of that car to a number of people, which in turn may affect the resell value....