Thought I had on str vs dex

[kinawarrior]

I uderstand that dex gives the same amount to crit as str does. And, I understand that dex gives you raw damage and dps. That being said, here is my question.

For the sole use of a str bear (meaning, i will not want to ever equip any dex items), would I be able to do more actual damage if I pump all my stats into str opposed to the min for str and the rex to dex?

The only reason I am asking is because str affects skill damage, and that is where all of our DPS comes from.

I think we can all agree that a pure int enchantress does more damage than an enchantress with their stats mixed, and same goes for bird.

So, for a bear that only wants to wield swords, should they go all str to get the most damage possible?

I may play around with some speccing to give some results for people to post their opinions on....so, it's time to find that thread on how to take screenshots and post them on your ipad...

[Kraze]

IMO a pure str bear isnt that great. Skill dmg is nice but if your missing a ton what's it matter? I'd recomend at least enough dex to get to 100% hit. MISS does no damage no matter how powerful the skill is

[Otukura]

Dex gives more skill damage to bears than strength does, only by about 12 damage at end game I think.

[kinawarrior]

ooh yes, i forgot about hit%, we bears lack in that category greatly. I think with that point being made I won't even play around with my build and leave it as is

[WhoIsThis]

Dex gives more crit than str. Not much more, but a slightly amount more. 0.002% more.

As others have pointed out, pure strength bears aren't that effective due to their low hit.

[friedkimchi]

I once saw a lvl 55 bear wearing fortified sword set, pure str and had 65% hit.
Crazy health, but damage was nothing special.
A dual spec bear with average bow could easily out damage a pure str bear wearing the best equips.

So in short, dual spec is the way to go.

[Tempest]

So if i were to make a str bear... should i go min str, rest dex?

[Silentarrow]

I'd try going half and half. Check Ellyidol's duel spec guide.

[Mr.Wallace]

Aaaaaand you could check the "how to spec your end game bear" thingee in my sig...

[Oewaden]

I agree with Silentarrow, I know you mentioned never equiping any DEX items, but you should really look in to dual-speccing. I was pure STR for the longest time and then finally tried it out and was suprised that you really don't lose that much armor and health versus the benefits you receive. Been dual spec ever since and love it, tank just as well if not better (with the extra hit) than before. It's really nice to be able to slap on a bow if there are other capable tanks in the group to help the run go faster. Not to mention, solo'ing CTK or PP for cash goes WAY faster, lol.

[CrimsonTider]

MrWallace and Ellyidol have guides which focus solely on this matter. Also, there are tons of threads on this discussion. NOT flaming, but make sure to use the search feature on the forums before making a thread about an already existing topic.

With that said, the answer to your question is simple: Dual-spec.

[Tamino]

It was said above by the author, but I repeat it here: if you do not plan to use DEX gears, you do not need to go dual (that is what I do prefer, but ain't you). Then checking Mr.Wallace guide here, 173 STR / 111 DEX.

[NECROREAPER]

Adding points to STR. ups the bear skill damage, just as dex and int up bird and mage skill damage respectively.

[Kraze]

Adding points to STR. ups the bear skill damage, just as dex and int up bird and mage skill damage respectively.

True but I stand by the fact that it's worth dumping points in to dex to make sure you're beckon is effective

[NECROREAPER]

True but I stand by the fact that it's worth dumping points in to dex to make sure you're beckon is effective

As do I, which I why I only put enough points into dex to make my hit 100% with my chosen gear and then the rest into str. since im an attack bear and I rely on skill damage.

[Otukura]

As do I, which I why I only put enough points into dex to make my hit 100% with my chosen gear and then the rest into str. since im an attack bear and I rely on skill damage.

But dex has more skill damage!!!

[NECROREAPER]

But dex has more skill damage!!!

But str also adds more skill damage for bear skills.

Hahahahaha they made this game too difficult

[friedkimchi]

But str also adds more skill damage for bear skills.

Hahahahaha they made this game too difficult

Care to share how much skill damage the various slashes and stomp have? Always wanted to compare.

My skill damage: With Custom Raid Recurve Set + 1% Crit, 11 Damage Ring
Total Critical with no buffs: 49

Vengeful Slash (Lvl 3) : 206-247
Crippling Slash (Lvl 3) : 206-234
Super Mega Slash (Lvl 6): 242-297
Stomp (Lvl 6): 254-270

Not listing my skill damage with str (tanking) gear as dealing damage is not a priority while tanking.

Lvl 55: Str 137, Dex 142.
Lvl 56: Str 142, Dex 142

[NECROREAPER]

Surely

Im using hate set coupled with gurgox hammer, I find lvl 50 gear works better for my style of play.

My stats:
STR: 207
DEX: 107
Hit: 100%
Crit: 24

Vengeful Slash (lv 6): 247-295
Stomp (Lv 6): 241-260
Super Mega Slash (Lv 6): 227-289

[Tamino]

Mine (Dual Ursan, base 142 STR, 137 DEX):

With Custom Recurve set (DEX):
Hit: 130%
Crit: 48
Stomp (lev 6): 259 (max)
SMS (lev 5): 275 (max)

With a mix of Royal Sewer/Bellow's/Rooter's (STR):
Hit: 93%
Crit: 35
Stomp (lev 6): 260 (max)
SMS (lev 5): 278 (max)

With Royal Sewer Helm/Plate and Gurgox Hammer (STR):
Hit: 95%
Crit: 16
Stomp (lev 6): 253 (max)
SMS (lev 5): 271 (max)