QFT. And a nice example....Originally Posted by Furrawn
QFT. And a nice example....
Characters: Epimetheus - Lvl 56 Warrior (main character), Atropos - Lvl 50 Enchantress, Aereus - Lvl 50 Archer
I was a warrior before warriors became cool....
[/QUOTE]Just don't call it an "Escort Service" or people will get the wrong idea!
Drops are not my concern. I don't know exactly what you meant by: "And drops would definetly have to be furthor discussed." If you meant that we (the helpers) would donate any drops to the newbies we are helping ... well, I sorta do that anyway. If it would be required, I'm probably okay with that for the lower-level maps. After all, I don't really need a Frosty Snowbird Wing of Legend anyway! On the other hand, I'd like to keep any Swamps drops that I can get. (As I've written in other threads, I'm not fully pinked-out yet.) But tell me what you meant, and we can discuss it further.
My only condition would be that I want to help players who want to fight, but need a little help doing so. I don't want to help leeches. My general rule-of-thumb is that characters should be within five levels of the map we're running. In other words, newbies should be at least lvl 25 before I'll help them in the Swamps. (Based on the idea that the Swamps are meant for lvl 30 characters and above.) If you're not at that level or higher, then you probably won't be able to make any difference against the mobs, and you'd die within a few seconds if you somehow managed to get the mobs' attention. At that point, I'm not helping you; I'm carrying you. The difference is important to me.[/QUOTE]
Maybe to alleviate the porblem there would be of ppl leeching off of you and you 'carry' them throughout the levels without them not really doing much but just following your behind since in the lower levels like fathom crypt and downward its kinda hard for lvl35s be not too much of a help and get them involved because we can kill the mobs in a few hits especailly if two lvl 35s were helpin together to save time so i suggest the following two ideas...
i think the concep of paying it forward was introduced in this thread already but i wanted to elaborate on it.... so lets just say we go into LE, where it would be good for us because the ppl being helped can easily make a difference since lvl 35 cant kill the mobs alone thus needing their assistance, and help a 28-32lvl character and we help them gain experience and items and give them stuff we get that we dont need and give them trash loot that they can liquidate for money (also during the session we can answer questions for them if they have any and also give them tips on all aspects of the game) and at the end of the session they, the ppl being helped, may ask us or themselves what can they do to give back or is there something we want in return because its human instinct to give something back after you have received something... so we tell them (since we prob already have all the pink equipment we want and we are ar 35) that they can instead pay it forward to ppl whos lower lvl than they are and do the same thing that we have done to them then they could experience the euphoria we experience after when we helped them... then maybe the pay it forward can trickle down to fathom crypt to balefort castle, onward and we wont have to worry about being an escort service but rather a helping hand thus charitable services and create a community that doesnt always take but gives back to help the gamer community to progress as a whole....
also another option would be for us volunteers to start a new character and get one of our friends to power lvl it to certain lvls i.e someone can be at 15, other at 20, so on and so forth, then go to the previous lower dungeon accordingly and do the charitable services and we wont feel like we are escorting them since we are not gonna be at a huge advantage against the mobs anymore and we will need their help to get through the levels getting them to participate and not just follow and watch... well this can be time consuming for ppl i can see but im sure we have friends who can help you power lvl your new character and it can bring back old memories and thus bring back those things that got you hooked on PL in the first place... i think im gonna start a new character today actually lol....
what do you guys think and what suggestions do you guys have? can this work or no? and if it can work how can we make it better and run smoother?
Last edited by smokester; 06-07-2010 at 02:11 PM.
Smokestar - Lvl 77 Pure Dex Bird
FAMILY NOOBSFORLIFE
Just don't call it an "Escort Service" or people will get the wrong idea!
Drops are not my concern. I don't know exactly what you meant by: "And drops would definetly have to be furthor discussed." If you meant that we (the helpers) would donate any drops to the newbies we are helping ... well, I sorta do that anyway. If it would be required, I'm probably okay with that for the lower-level maps. After all, I don't really need a Frosty Snowbird Wing of Legend anyway! On the other hand, I'd like to keep any Swamps drops that I can get. (As I've written in other threads, I'm not fully pinked-out yet.) But tell me what you meant, and we can discuss it further.
My only condition would be that I want to help players who want to fight, but need a little help doing so. I don't want to help leeches. My general rule-of-thumb is that characters should be within five levels of the map we're running. In other words, newbies should be at least lvl 25 before I'll help them in the Swamps. (Based on the idea that the Swamps are meant for lvl 30 characters and above.) If you're not at that level or higher, then you probably won't be able to make any difference against the mobs, and you'd die within a few seconds if you somehow managed to get the mobs' attention. At that point, I'm not helping you; I'm carrying you. The difference is important to me.[/QUOTE]
Maybe to alleviate the porblem there would be of ppl leeching off of you and you 'carry' them throughout the levels without them not really doing much but just following your behind since in the lower levels like fathom crypt and downward its kinda hard for lvl35s be not too much of a help and get them involved because we can kill the mobs in a few hits especailly if two lvl 35s were helpin together to save time so i suggest the following two ideas...
i think the concep of paying it forward was introduced in this thread already but i wanted to elaborate on it.... so lets just say we go into LE, where it would be good for us because the ppl being helped can easily make a difference since lvl 35 cant kill the mobs alone thus needing their assistance, and help a 28-32lvl character and we help them gain experience and items and give them stuff we get that we dont need and give them trash loot that they can liquidate for money (also during the session we can answer questions for them if they have any and also give them tips on all aspects of the game) and at the end of the session they, the ppl being helped, may ask us or themselves what can they do to give back or is there something we want in return because its human instinct to give something back after you have received something... so we tell them (since we prob already have all the pink equipment we want and we are ar 35) that they can instead pay it forward to ppl whos lower lvl than they are and do the same thing that we have done to them then they could experience the euphoria we experience after when we helped them... then maybe the pay it forward can trickle down to fathom crypt to balefort castle, onward and we wont have to worry about being an escort service but rather a helping hand thus charitable services and create a community that doesnt always take but gives back to help the gamer community to progress as a whole....
also another option would be for us volunteers to start a new character and get one of our friends to power lvl it to certain lvls i.e someone can be at 15, other at 20, so on and so forth, then go to the previous lower dungeon accordingly and do the charitable services and we wont feel like we are escorting them since we are not gonna be at a huge advantage against the mobs anymore and we will need their help to get through the levels getting them to participate and not just follow and watch... well this can be time consuming for ppl i can see but im sure we have friends who can help you power lvl your new character and it can bring back old memories and thus bring back those things that got you hooked on PL in the first place... i think im gonna start a new character today actually lol....
what do you guys think and what suggestions do you guys have? can this work or no? and if it can work how can we make it better and run smoother?[/QUOTE]
To make it brief
This is a Forum Action
Most people on the forum actully care about the game to a certian extent are are not the ones spamming/leeching/begging and so on.
They come here becuase they want info, feedback, ask question, report observation, suggest ideas.
I dont feel to much is to worry about as you say, although yes there will be the exception.
Again briefly, people who need help lvling, are not going to be able to help others lvling as they will want thier playtime to furthor thier own character. This is understandable but maybe they will out reach more in thier own way to help others. More to say set an example to follow.
Now as far as everything is going, I had hoped for much more than this comments and/or interest
I am uinsure if I should furthor this anymore.
Tobikuma/Duciel/Thorulf - Alterra
I wouldn't go for the leveling a character at 15 or 20 to help others. The character would level too high, have to be killed, and another character created- ad infinitum. I never carry a player. If they don't help, I don't help. For me, donating my time, all the loot pertaining to their character through the campaign, answering questions, etc is enough. Too many rules would make helping a chore for me... So we'll probably stay a separate helping entity... Maybe we'll be an alliance helping hand
Tobi-
Your charity is wonderful. You'll be helping a lot of people.
I'm in for the lotto though...
Generally speaking, a howling wilderness does not howl: it is the imagination of the traveler that does the howling. ~ Thoreau
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I still think it's a good idea, and I don't want to get too tied up into rules. Please consider my previous comments about drops and levels to be mere suggestions, not demands.
If you want to start a Newbie Helping Service, then I'm in!
Characters: Epimetheus - Lvl 56 Warrior (main character), Atropos - Lvl 50 Enchantress, Aereus - Lvl 50 Archer
I was a warrior before warriors became cool....
lets just start something and start it quick before the new map comes out (also im getting bored)... im down for whatever i already started a new character lol a dexmage and shes at lvl17 so i can do anything right now... just let me know duc how i can be of service
and i thought it was going to be charity to anybody who wanted some help not just forum ppl thus why i posted my suggestions... if its for lower lvl ppl on forum then yeah what you have drawn up already should work good and we can alway make improvements along the way....
Last edited by smokester; 06-08-2010 at 01:32 PM.
Smokestar - Lvl 77 Pure Dex Bird
FAMILY NOOBSFORLIFE
Smoke-
I think you were right... the discussion was for helping all new players not just forum members...
Generally speaking, a howling wilderness does not howl: it is the imagination of the traveler that does the howling. ~ Thoreau
FURRAWN 45 Paladin ButterflyPoet 45 pure dex ScarlettOHara 45 Intbear Jeannedarc 22 Mage Trickortreat lvl 22 100% pure organic chicken Christmastree 13 Mage
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