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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    Bird = 2 freezes from mage, probably only one since the other is an AoE (close-ish range), 2 roots from bird, Avian Scream to break free, no effect on combo.
    Actually, I think Avian Scream needs to be maxed for it to happen(certaintly doesn't work at 1, or 2, but I know it works at 6. Haven't tested in between). Hardly anyone has it, but birds have the range that being stuck isn't a life-killing thing.

    Another thing in the back of my mind was making HS have a much longer range, 10-12 instead of 8. The mini stun might help bears get closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otukura View Post
    Actually, I think Avian Scream needs to be maxed for it to happen(certaintly doesn't work at 1, or 2, but I know it works at 6. Haven't tested in between). Hardly anyone has it, but birds have the range that being stuck isn't a life-killing thing.

    Another thing in the back of my mind was making HS have a much longer range, 10-12 instead of 8. The mini stun might help bears get closer.
    Interesting, haven't heard this before. Would be awesome if someone else could confirm too.

    I know Stomp 6 works, will test in between.

    And yes, agreed on HS, but I can only imagine the OP cries of non-bear players sound like after

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    Interesting, haven't heard this before. Would be awesome if someone else could confirm too.

    I know Stomp 6 works, will test in between.

    And yes, agreed on HS, but I can only imagine the OP cries of non-bear players sound like after
    I know from LE maps (to break free from ice) that stomp only works starting from lvl4. My guess is it would be the same for pvp.

    At low lvls, it would be kind of a waste to have to put 4 points in taunt to be able to unfreeze/unroot yourself IMO Maybe give taunt it's unroot ability at lvl1. It's a skill I wouldn't even put a point in at low lvl. So it could be a fair tradeoff against the lower cooldown.

    Anyway, I think this is a great suggestion you brought up here. Kind of remarkable that nobody else thought of this before. I really hope the devs take notice of this thread


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    I know from LE maps (to break free from ice) that stomp only works starting from lvl4. My guess is it would be the same for pvp.

    At low lvls, it would be kind of a waste to have to put 4 points in taunt to be able to unfreeze/unroot yourself IMO Maybe give taunt it's unroot ability at lvl1. It's a skill I wouldn't even put a point in at low lvl. So it could be a fair tradeoff against the lower cooldown.

    Anyway, I think this is a great suggestion you brought up here. Kind of remarkable that nobody else thought of this before. I really hope the devs take notice of this thread
    Thanks! 4 sounds right, since it's below Otu's theory of 6 but above his experience of 1-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    I know from LE maps (to break free from ice) that stomp only works starting from lvl4. My guess is it would be the same for pvp.
    Sounds about right

    At low lvls, it would be kind of a waste to have to put 4 points in taunt to be able to unfreeze/unroot yourself IMO Maybe give taunt it's unroot ability at lvl1. It's a skill I wouldn't even put a point in at low lvl. So it could be a fair tradeoff against the lower cooldown.
    How low do you consider low? Below 20/25, it's not like they need an unroot -- they deal so much damage because of rage. Maybe level 2/3. It'll help them out at level 35+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    Interesting, haven't heard this before. Would be awesome if someone else could confirm too.

    I know Stomp 6 works, will test in between.

    And yes, agreed on HS, but I can only imagine the OP cries of non-bear players sound like after
    OP cries? What?

    Adding a unfreeze for HS will be OP? No sir. We will be OP AFTER you reverse the rage nerf, make beckon have larger range, and GIVE US A CHARGE SKILL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noobmigo View Post
    OP cries? What?

    Adding a unfreeze for HS will be OP? No sir. We will be OP AFTER you reverse the rage nerf, make beckon have larger range, and GIVE US A CHARGE SKILL!
    Lol no, making HS 11-12m range. Beckon range is fine the way it is, charge would be the best new change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    Lol no, making HS 11-12m range. Beckon range is fine the way it is, charge would be the best new change.
    I apologize for not reading it the whole way through.

    I say 10m for HS! Rawr!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    charge would be the best new change.
    Oooh charge... I'd like to see that in PL

    Maybe they could modify the taunt skill to take agro AND charge. There would be 1 skill that would need to be modified for this anyway. For pve that would be cool too, this gives a bear the chance to stay in front of the group, and I can see myself charging towards a wall already while taking agro of the surrounding enemies


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    Hell Scream finishes a combo and a Mega...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrce View Post
    Hell Scream finishes a combo and a Mega...
    Self-combos.

    To be honest, I haven't seen one mega combo in pvp other than the time that we actually staged it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    Self-combos.

    To be honest, I haven't seen one mega combo in pvp other than the time that we actually staged it.
    I was mega combo'd twice within 3 seconds once, but other than that, no others. Was rather disappointed that they didn't seem to add damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbridge View Post
    Yep, makes great sense. Surprised it hasn't been suggested b4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otukura View Post
    I was mega combo'd twice within 3 seconds once, but other than that, no others. Was rather disappointed that they didn't seem to add damage.
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    Is there any dex weapon for twinks that gives Break Armor proc? I've seen a bear self combo with crushed, but it was a level 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noobmigo View Post
    Is there any dex weapon for twinks that gives Break Armor proc? I've seen a bear self combo with crushed, but it was a level 30.
    Not aware of any with Break Armour.. You mean the Crushed combo? Or with Crushing Blow?

    Side-track, is it possible to request any dev response from this? It'd really help on shining the light for the future pvp for bears at least.

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    charge.... me likey
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    Bumping this for further discussion and attention.

    Although I've learned to alter my PvP combo more to avoid this issue (be stingy on stomp), I still believe that it's very unbalanced on how our only self-combo finisher (also our biggest spike/nuke skill) is also our only hope in getting out of roots/freezes which we already have more than enough to deal with (2 per class).

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