Suggestion: Bear skill to break-out of freeze/root.

[Ellyidol]

Hello!

Currently, each class has one skill that, when used, frees the character from a freeze/root.

If I'm not mistaken, it goes:

Bird = Avian Scream
Mage = Heal
Bear = Stomp

After considering it for awhile, and getting opinions from other players, I think the bear skill should be changed from Stomp to Hell Scream.

Bears already have the big disadvantage of the majority of its skills being melee. Getting Frozen/Rooted only adds to our problems. That said, Stomp is also the bears only combo-finisher (Beckon+Stomp). IMO, its such a waste to have to use Stomp to break out of a freeze/root, and not have a combo-finisher anymore.

Avian Scream or Heal doesn't affect the ability of the bird/Mage to finish their respective combos.

Makes sense, I hope. Thanks

[nazgulking]

Your suggestion makes sense, so +1

[Kakatoa91]

Interesting and good suggestion.
Nothing overpowering and could give str bear a tiny bit more chance in pvp at hlvl.

[Redbridge]

Yep, makes great sense. Surprised it hasn't been suggested b4.

+1

[Mr.Wallace]

Good idea! I always hate to waste a stomp cooldown for ice
But I think the skill to break free should still be one available early in game - like avian scream and heal are too - because of the omnipresent root traps in forest haven. So maybe taunt as replacement?

[Ellyidol]

Good idea! I always hate to waste a stomp cooldown for ice
But I think the skill to break free should still be one available early in game - like avian scream and heal are too - because of the omnipresent root traps in forest haven. So maybe taunt as replacement?

That's true.

Taunt is only on a 6sec CD though, Taunt would be ideal for me, I mean after all we're tanks. I just didn't want to suggest Taunt and hear screams of OP

[Kakatoa91]

rite forgot about the low lvl map... poor lil bear gettin stuck in pve ;/ since HS is available around 19 no? Stomp is lvl 4 or 5 forgot.

In pvp also, this would problably change the low lvl twink world if bear cant unroot/unfreeze if they dont have HS yet.

So taunt yea is a low lvl skill. But its mana free...
So the risk if its put there to make bear pay that skill now since the skill receive an other bonus.

[noobmigo]

Blah Blah Blah.

Taunt, no. I would say one of the slashes, to "Slash" out of the root/freeze.

[NECROREAPER]

Blah Blah Blah.

Taunt, no. I would say one of the slashes, to "Slash" out of the root/freeze.

But then why would a bird "scream" out of a root or a mage "heal" out of a freeze???

[Phoenixking]

But then why would a bird "scream" out of a root or a mage "heal" out of a freeze???

A bird screams it breaks the ice and pushes root away a mage healing clears negative effects defrosting and withering them away but taunt is better imo

[Otukura]

Blah Blah Blah.

Taunt, no. I would say one of the slashes, to "Slash" out of the root/freeze.

Someone doesn't want to respec their twink

I'm all for taunt, or having hell scream and stomp both unfreeze/unroot yourself. The mages/birds have two freezes/roots anyway.

[Phoenixking]

Someone doesn't want to respec their twinkI'm all for taunt, or having hell scream and stomp both unfreeze/unroot yourself. The mages/birds have two freezes/roots anyway.

And the bears have three stunning attacks

[Otukura]

And the bears have three stunning attacks

Those stunning attacks are melee range. And they have a bunch of ministuns(not melee range) too.

[Phoenixking]

Those stunning attacks are melee range. And they have a bunch of ministuns(not melee range) too.

Did i mention of them is beckon? Ooh and i forgot about Stomp it has a rare stun

[Otukura]

Did i mention of them is beckon? Ooh and i forgot about Stomp it has a rare stun

Beckon is only a ministun.

SMS= stun
Stomp = stun

Beckon = ministun
HS = ministun

So they only have 2 stuns.

[Phoenixking]

Ooh kk put me down like that lol jk and CRIPPLING SLASH!!! Is also a stun

[Otukura]

Ooh kk put me down like that lol jk and CRIPPLING SLASH!!! Is also a stun

CS is a rare mini stun, I don't really count it as it doesn't happen too often.

[Phoenixking]

CS is a rare mini stun, I don't really count it as it doesn't happen too often.

It says it roots target

[Otukura]

It says it roots target

root =/= stun, mini stuns root people too.

[Ellyidol]

Otu is right, sure we have stuns, but they're all melee. The biggest problem of a bear is just that, getting into melee range.

AFAIK, mini-stuns don't "force" you to use a skill to break free. Only freezes/roots.

Bear = 2 roots from bird, 2 freezes from mage, one stomp to get away from one of four of these, no more combo.

Bird = 2 freezes from mage, probably only one since the other is an AoE (close-ish range), 2 roots from bird, Avian Scream to break free, no effect on combo.

Mage = 2 freezes from mage, 2 root from bird, most sensible that heal breaks free, easy to get out of it, no effect on combo.

@migo

I get where you're coming from, I really do. I used to twink in other games as well. But with all due respect, PvP and working towards rebalancing it shouldn't have twinks as it's base comparison. IMO, twinks are the most entertaining alternative to end-game PvP, but should only come second to it.

That said, you can't sacrifice end-game balance for the benefit of twinking. Unless I'm badly misinformed that this game prioritizes in twinking before end-game, that's how I feel.