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Great tournament idea Elly.
IGN: Silentslash.
Great tournament idea Elly.
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All in! Thanks guys
Btw, I'm hoping that when I start the tourney, the feature auto-randomizes the match-ups. If not, I'll have to do it myself when the tournament starts. I won't reveal yet how, just letting everyone know
The explanation will be rather lengthy.Originally Posted by Ellyidol
Welcome guys!
That's true. You mean too many players for a single elimination would mean a really lengthy tourney right?
Double elimination means two brackets? Much like the East vs West NBA finals? I thought it meant all players play each other twice, double elimination sounds best if I was wrong!
The only issue I see now is if we end up with an odd number of participants. If that's the case, I'll join inWant me to pm it to you or post here for all to see and provide feedback?
CrimsonTider::Astuteness::Crim::CrimzonTider::IBec kon::Houndstooth
WreckzNEffect::Intuitive::Kinesiology::Crimagical: :Killtastrophe::SsgtSlaughter::Transfixion
Arrownaut::Crimtacular::Funkdified::CrimJr
You don't have toThe explanation will be rather lengthy.
Yes and no. I'll keep it short:
Making a bracket is like working a math problem: each player must always have an opponent and end the end there can only be one. For now,you're planning for 50. When building a bracket, your total start number needs to be a MULTIPLE of 2. The reason for this is ensure "pairs" always exist. However, you will need to do backwards math in deciding your total number of entries. Using your currentfinal number, let's do the math:
50/2 = 25
As we see, there is a problem. Everyone gets to play in the first round but the second round would have to have a bye because of the odd number. This equals problems. Now, use reverse math. Again, we knkw we need to have one winner, now we just need to know how many bears to rock this party. Remember, multiples of 2:
2 - 4 - 8 - 16 - 32 - 64 and so on.
So basically, you take the last number and multiply by 2. This will ensure a equal number of opportunitys for all involved. For a good visual of this, google the NCAA Basketball Championships brackets. This is a 64 team bracket which couod give you a template to use.
Hope this helps!
CrimsonTider::Astuteness::Crim::CrimzonTider::IBec kon::Houndstooth
WreckzNEffect::Intuitive::Kinesiology::Crimagical: :Killtastrophe::SsgtSlaughter::Transfixion
Arrownaut::Crimtacular::Funkdified::CrimJr
I get it! Genius
Will check the edit options when I get home, I'll make the number close enough since I can edit it anytime anyway. 32 sounds a lot while 16 sounds too little though..
I agree then I got the idea of groups.. Not teams with 2v2 still 1v1.. It's like soccer tournaments.. U start out in groups with 4-5 players in each. Every player in each group must fight each other once and each win is gaining a number of points and the two best ppl in each group (the two with most points) are moving on into this "tree" as Crimson described. This strategy makes the numbers as 20,24 and 25 available.. This might make the tournament longer instead of starting out with the "tree"..I get it! Genius
Will check the edit options when I get home, I'll make the number close enough since I can edit it anytime anyway. 32 sounds a lot while 16 sounds too little though..
But this is just an idea..
Hello peeps
Yeah true
I'll wait a bit more to let more people in, worst case is we'll have to do the groups thing.
I like "group" idea (it is used in soccer World Cup tournament) because it allows even the worst player to play at least a game against any other in his group, instead of being eliminated after the first game. More fun for noobs like me!
<edit> This is why it is used in soccer World Cup; Europe and South America soccer teams are much better than others, but emerging country can show on themselves.
Last edited by Tamino; 08-05-2011 at 07:32 AM.
Just one question.. How familiar are you with those ways to make tournaments?Yeah true
I'll wait a bit more to let more people in, worst case is we'll have to do the groups thing.
EDIT:
Haha, true, true.. I'm not the greatest PvP'er either only beat a bird with the name "Generalriggs" once 7-1 to me.. I used my melee tank outfit .. And he used his Dex outfit but me Dodge % seemed to be a prob for him lol.. My PvP score are like 55 kills 115 deaths haha
Last edited by KaotiicxDream; 08-05-2011 at 07:33 AM.
Hello peeps
Making them, not so much experience. Played in them countless times though, been competing in soccer since I was a kid
Totally random grouping though right? I don't see a way in how I can determine a fair grouping other than random.
I like the World Cup style grouping! You woukd need either 4 or 8 grouos with too two advancing from each group into a singke eliminatiin bracket. I think 32 would be a great number as 16 is a little small. I like how everyone is pitching in.
And yes, just group us randomly. With the crew who have signed up now I dont forsee any issues regarding "fairness".
CrimsonTider::Astuteness::Crim::CrimzonTider::IBec kon::Houndstooth
WreckzNEffect::Intuitive::Kinesiology::Crimagical: :Killtastrophe::SsgtSlaughter::Transfixion
Arrownaut::Crimtacular::Funkdified::CrimJr
ha! yes, it was fun. My build is pretty wicked, idk how I will fair vs bears however. Not much experience in that field. May need to move a ring over from my pally.
You better believe that my guild members bears will enter too. Jcolt and Debowe. They share my build
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I can help you making this tree if you want just pm me :-)Making them, not so much experience. Played in them countless times though, been competing in soccer since I was a kid
Totally random grouping though right? I don't see a way in how I can determine a fair grouping other than random.
I can help you randomize unless you got a good way to do it yourself ;-)
The two from each group that are moving, their matches are now randomized again for the "tree".. I'm glad u liked the idea :-D
Hello peeps
So no matter what type of method I use, I would still need the same numbers right? 16 or 32, since the backward maths would still explain everything?
Sounds good! Please tell them to enter via forums, since only the people registered here then the tournament will be able to participateha! yes, it was fun. My build is pretty wicked, idk how I will fair vs bears however. Not much experience in that field. May need to move a ring over from my pally.
You better believe that my guild members bears will enter too. Jcolt and Debowe. They share my build
I will definitely need help if I can't do it alone! Thank you
My bear... Bluexninja
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The numbers 16 or 32 aren't the only way if you choose to use the group method.So no matter what type of method I use, I would still need the same numbers right? 16 or 32, since the backward maths would still explain everything?
I will definitely need help if I can't do it alone! Thank you
I'll be here at anytime to help you out ;-) Just send me a pm here on forums or pm me in-game.. I'll add ur bear in PL if alright? Ellyidol is your bear's name right?
Hello peeps
Do you mind explaining on the thread about the numbers possible for the group?
It'd help if everyone got a chance to read why, IMO
Since we're grouping and its 1v1, I'd assume groups need to be either 4 or 8 people? Then at least 2, 4, or 8 groups too?
I don't PvP at all but this sounds like a good excuse to try it out, especially on my silly pure str bear.
Sounds fun!
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