Housing 2.0 Guide

[Bellaelda]

The permanent buffs are able to be used in a PvP and PvE environment?

Yes. Everywhere.

I dunno, but this doesn't sound right to me... Gives plat players an unfair advantage? No?

[Oakmaiden]

The audio for forst enviro can only be heard if i crank up the volume,which is too loud for rest of game locations.

[crudmudgeon]

I dunno, but this doesn't sound right to me... Gives plat players an unfair advantage? No?

there is nothing unfair about buying an elixer... why would you think this an unfair advantage.

[DaPadrino]

there is nothing unfair about buying an elixer... why would you think this an unfair advantage.

Cause its perma !!!!!!!!!

[Darkquantum]

Almost no point posting my last 4 were edited so much so they lost there point and arnt even my words now

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[Ardbeg]

there is nothing unfair about buying an elixer... why would you think this an unfair advantage.

When housing was introduced it was clearly described as optional. For competitive players nothing with stats is optional. So this moved the baseline for all competitive players up. It devalued former purchases without a thought out upgrade plan. And yes, elixiers are fine, but there s a reason there s an extra leaderboard for elixier runs. Now where's the extra leaderboard or map to make up for the housing buffs?

[crudmudgeon]

Really would absolutely love more furniture slots please so I can decorate my stately lodge the way I would truly like it to be and 70/70 slots just doesn't cut it at all.

One more time, I would really enjoy my magical mug more if I could sit in my chair while drinking from it but alas, I still cannot. Standing while drinking just seems a bit hazardous. XD

Thanks,
Msleo

I sit and drink...

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[crudmudgeon]

Actually this is completly different then elixirs. Maybe in pve wont make a big difference but in pvp is a very different conversation.

My housing buffs are dwarfed by my antignome buff that is currently active everywhere... u should complain about that...

How long have u been playing this gane ? Do u know new players have to pat for manything u havent pay also before the gane was esier to get rich .

House should be use to send mails with items and/or money any currency ...... no for stats thats just crazy.

Like i said before this game is making his way to pay to win well sts u have to make lots of money GL sayonara.

I just lost 40 days of my playing life.

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[crudmudgeon]

Hmm... i think its doesnt fair because of a buff exist makes the other strong, and only paided buy platinum so they could get much more a buff.. when people are in arena PVP a combat seem doesnt fair..
Its better if the effect of buff can be function on arena PVE

200hp and 2dmg still doesn't kill 3-4 lava procs... lets not be overzealous about the fairness of the buff...

I can see the need for buff to be scalled to lvl... but the numbers aren't crazy

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[arcanefid]

I think this update won't be reverted, but at least scaling the buffs with level would be great.

Even better, if those buffs don't apply in PvP zones.

Best of all would be to remove them completely and instead of stats, players who own the gardens and houses just get a visual effect, or a banner or a vanity, just not stuff that affects the battles.

This is only my opinion, and I hardly believe it would make a difference, but I hope that in the future we won't see similar things.

[Ardbeg]

200hp and 2dmg still doesn't kill 3-4 lava procs... lets not be overzealous about the fairness of the buff...

I can see the need for buff to be scalled to lvl... but the numbers aren't crazy

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It is a buff on top off all other buffs and it moves the baseline. How much would you have to pay for it in jewels to get the same heads up? If vanity items gets stats you can no longer freely choose which vanity to use according to your taste.

[Terminhater]

Upkeep on plat houses is a good idea - said no one ever!

[Justg]

Upkeep on plat houses is a good idea - said no one ever!

We think this guy had something to do with Upkeep:

[Terminhater]

We think this guy had something to do with Upkeep:

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Finally the person is caught, ye Sherrif of Nottingham type fellow ye!

I think you should create an event where we can lynch him for a nice coinage reward ?

[crudmudgeon]

It is a buff on top off all other buffs and it moves the baseline. How much would you have to pay for it in jewels to get the same heads up? If vanity items gets stats you can no longer freely choose which vanity to use according to your taste.

2 noble nature (200k)... 2 noble water (100k)... exquisite chaos (3m max).
I spent 1800 plat which is worth 5.4m at 3k per plat... seriously I don't get the gripe... its not a vanity, its a very expensive bonus AND IT ISN'T GAME CHANGINGLY LARGE BONUS

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[crudmudgeon]

People compare housing bonus to para and that is just rediculous... 2dmg isn't the big game changer with para... ITS THE BONUS DAMAGE. 200hp may be big on a twink... but at end game a mage dies as easilt at 5200hp as he did at 5000hp...

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[crudmudgeon]

Just 90% of the things you typed are wrong there. Revise.

I can't find anything wrong with my position.
No gold is made in pvp -TRUE
Top endgame pvpers are rich after years of buy/hold/sell seasons-TRUE
Mid-grade housing is an affordable buff for mid-grade chars that may help pve chars enjoy pvp - TRUE

I know haters gonna hate... but seriously

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[crudmudgeon]

I think this update won't be reverted, but at least scaling the buffs with level would be great.

Even better, if those buffs don't apply in PvP zones.

Best of all would be to remove them completely and instead of stats, players who own the gardens and houses just get a visual effect, or a banner or a vanity, just not stuff that affects the battles.

This is only my opinion, and I hardly believe it would make a difference, but I hope that in the future we won't see similar things.

Then... again... there would be no tangible benefit to purchasing the products StS has developed.

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[Arcael]

I can't find anything wrong with my position.
No gold is made in pvp -TRUE
Top endgame pvpers are rich after years of buy/hold/sell seasons-TRUE
Mid-grade housing is an affordable buff for mid-grade chars that may help pve chars enjoy pvp - TRUE

I know haters gonna hate... but seriously

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Your facts weren't wrong. Your perspective is. We aren't against the housing buff because it'll help farm gold in PvE. Nobody cares about farming gold in PvE or PvP more than the damage it is going to do to the free-to-play community.
The housing buff currently comes for plat only. And non plat-buyers have it hard to buy a 4m Lodge deed and also they have to buy their gears by farming gold. So you can see how hard it becomes for them to compete in PvP; and I'm not talking about the top players in PvP, I'm talking about everyone who does PvP.
"Buy stats for plat" shouldn't be allowed in any game even for paid users. The point of the game is to actually play the game, not to spend some quick bucks and leave the hard-working f2p community behind in ranks. AL is one of those games who are good at making the f2p players feel comfortable, let's not let it be otherwise.

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[Avaree]

It is a buff on top off all other buffs and it moves the baseline. How much would you have to pay for it in jewels to get the same heads up? If vanity items gets stats you can no longer freely choose which vanity to use according to your taste.

2 noble nature (200k)... 2 noble water (100k)... exquisite chaos (3m max).
I spent 1800 plat which is worth 5.4m at 3k per plat... seriously I don't get the gripe... its not a vanity, its a very expensive bonus AND IT ISN'T GAME CHANGINGLY LARGE BONUS

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Do you realize how much you take away from primary stats by using those five slots with secondary jewels that you mention above? Now thats game changing, and not on a positive note.