There isn't a right answer to this unless ur planning to redesign the whole pvp from start. Rogues squishy but deadly. Mages semi squishy but decent dmg, tanks good dmg absorbing and protecting. Rogues were never meant to have more armor than mages. Mages were never meant to have more dmg than rogues. And tanks are just tanks.
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But who needs a rogue if she can't even survive? While mages survive more deal enough damage to nuke the target and can heal the team. Even if she deals high damage shes at the back hitting a juggernaut tank who will never break, if she rushes then shes dead because cant survive 3 mages even with the team heals, and ofc after the shield is gone 3 mages will rush her.Originally Posted by Shelllz
-I'm a Mage my self.
Exactly, and this is something very few sorcerers will ever admit. Especially those who currently abuse this weakness. Thank you for being one of the ones to admit this is an issue.
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Abuse this weakness.....when certain "pro" rogue used tank stack(3-4 tanks in a clash) because of sword lava proc no one complained. You didn't see me in forums begging to nerf the sword. Learn and adapt.
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This was to combat the sorcerer stack in the first place, so your point is just helping me out. When a certain class can completely replace another class then things need to be fixed.
Please, look at this from a balance perspective and not just because of a claim that there are no rogues. I've certainly been more than fair about buffing sorcerers when they were nearly useless. Do rogues not deserve the same?
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The issue here is not abuse everyone has the right to play with whatever team that's true but the issue is that rogues are not needed anymore and they can not survive, my point is why would a team need a rogue in clash if shes going to hit the tank with juggernaut and he would never break? If she rush shes going to die, even if shee at the back she will die once they rush her which is 100% going to happen. She can not survive neither do her job.
Sorry but not everyone is like that "Pro" rogue most are a bit undergeared, you said that your undergeared and hes maxed yet he's having trouble with you in clashes, imagine a undergeared rogue then? She cant break juggernaut or survive at the back neither rush, how is she suppose to deal damage then? IMO the damage the rogue deals to a juggernaut tank is useless because he wont break either ways lol
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Keep it civil folks, this is supposed to be a thread where we discuss proposed changes with you.
Nah it's more like this
Rogue with better gear> rogue
Rogue>Mage
Skilled rogue>tank
Can you stop going against every major pvp issue just because you fear it might change pve? You have no constructive thoughts just the ever repeating comment of, pvp is destroying this game blablabla.
I never said he had trouble. He gets most kills per clash.
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Sorry Gary, just buff the rogues armor a bit and leave everything else as is. Or take my other option and just nerf everyone to be at same stats (per class), and get rid of procs. I'm done here.
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Everyone pvping should be able to notice that rogues having trouble in pvp, i don't know really if you noticed since you don't use a rogue in clash, but i seen him get swapped alot even though hes maxed and skilled just for a mage that is not even as maxed as him.
I mean it has been long in the making. The desire for rogues in clash was lost at the outro of 41. Tanks and mages run pvp, it's as if the character description for rogue atm is "good for pve, but don't step foot in pvp."
make some time of kdrless pvp to test those issue
ofc everyone would rage even with slightest a smell of nerf news
rogue has no valid defensive mechanism or powerful heal additionally its mana hungry so longer fight request is invalid as it stands
for me,best thing that can be done is buff the damage of rogue in pvp so we can fulfill the glass canon not just glass
He has a maxed out mage at his disposal. We don't have rogues. There shouldn't be a problem.
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Lrime, amqk, virqin, twerrk, level your rogue?, poisoneds, etc etc
Amok is sleeping when we clash. Twerk doesn't even have gear......he borrowed gear for 1 clash and now u think he's at our disposal 24/7.....WE HAVE NO ROGUES.
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you cant posibly have a longer battle with inferior heal, no defensive ability, mana hungry class like rogue. Its designed to be glass canon fast kills fast burst but weak defense so out of battle soon
what you are asking is changing entire class in order to make longer battle, you want your rogue to be mage or what?
What I'm saying is that rogues should at least have a spot in PvP at least 1 rogue is enough, 2 mages is a must now anyways because of korruption but none would swap a mage for rogue even that "Pro" rogue gets swapped alot for a mage if not every single maxed ctf clash,
Basically rogues can not compete with mages not even close in clash if its a mage stack.
Look how its done now
"Tank stack can be easily killed by korruption- its a nightmare for them"
"Rogue stack is useless since the beginning "
"Mage stack is still the best, even 2 tanks 3 mages can beat a tank stack now"
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