L16 getting beaten by L15

**Xinghvn** · 10-09-2016, 11:02 PM

Its true that many lv16~17s uses lv15 rings because they have better stats than others in the bracket. If the rogue runs, use axe, cs and plus breeze or swift. When using swift, aa it and then quickly apply a charged normal to stun it or otherwise its not gonna work cause rogues will run away from it.

**intizamfamily888** · 10-10-2016, 03:34 AM

As i said the vb vs build for tank is outdated! XD

Try to use jugg

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**resurrected** · 10-10-2016, 05:13 AM

Horn and vb at 16? Yes let rogue eat you

Try jugg

**zauilet** · 10-10-2016, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Xinghvn

Its true that many lv16~17s uses lv15 rings because they have better stats than others in the bracket. If the rogue runs, use axe, cs and plus breeze or swift. When using swift, aa it and then quickly apply a charged normal to stun it or otherwise its not gonna work cause rogues will run away from it.

Hmmm....no offense but if u think what ur saying is gonna work go and duel with a rogue named "hope" here r the conditions :
U should be a lv 16 tank
U should not use para
U should be having arc maul with at least 2 awakening slots open
U should post ss on forums(if u win)
A reply to people who say that I should use jugg :
As already posted by me no one (except in tank vs tank) does vs with a tank who uses jugg and I know that's a kind of cheating not allowing tanks to use jugg but u know people using rogues/mages don't understand maybe some devs should tell to rogue/mage uses to understand and allow tanks to use their skills

**Horme** · 10-10-2016, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by zauilet

Hmmm....no offense but if u think what ur saying is gonna work go and duel with a rogue named "hope" here r the conditions :
U should be a lv 16 tank
U should not use para
U should be having arc maul with at least 2 awakening slots open
U should post ss on forums(if u win)
A reply to people who say that I should use jugg :
As already posted by me no one (except in tank vs tank) does vs with a tank who uses jugg and I know that's a kind of cheating not allowing tanks to use jugg but u know people using rogues/mages don't understand maybe some devs should tell to rogue/mage uses to understand and allow tanks to use their skills

Lol, ask rogue no aimed shot and mage no shield then, hahaha. That's funny tank fight without jugg, like a naked guy running around.

**zauilet** · 10-10-2016, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Horme

Lol, ask rogue no aimed shot and mage no shield then, hahaha. That's funny tank fight without jugg, like a naked guy running around.

Lol. ...I'm not joking over here
I'm telling truth no mage/rogue does vs with a tank who uses jugg

**resurrected** · 10-10-2016, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by zauilet

Lol. ...I'm not joking over here
I'm telling truth no mage/rogue does vs with a tank who uses jugg

I know some do...

**zauilet** · 10-10-2016, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by resurrected

I know some do...

At least u understand. ...thnx
Ign juddgyy add me maybe u can help out with smthing
What's ur ign BTW?

**resurrected** · 10-10-2016, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by zauilet

At least u understand. ...thnx
Ign juddgyy add me maybe u can help out with smthing
What's ur ign BTW?

Failedheal.

I guess we have same friend don't you think? ;-)

Edit : drop pm if u need build or anything

**intizamfamily888** · 10-10-2016, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by zauilet

Hmmm....no offense but if u think what ur saying is gonna work go and duel with a rogue named "hope" here r the conditions :
U should be a lv 16 tank
U should not use para
U should be having arc maul with at least 2 awakening slots open
U should post ss on forums(if u win)
A reply to people who say that I should use jugg :
As already posted by me no one (except in tank vs tank) does vs with a tank who uses jugg and I know that's a kind of cheating not allowing tanks to use jugg but u know people using rogues/mages don't understand maybe some devs should tell to rogue/mage uses to understand and allow tanks to use their skills

It was possible before paras came out to vs with vb and horn. While para got launched it got way harder. Now with the release of awakenings its impossible now to win without jugg

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**bigjeezy** · 10-10-2016, 02:47 PM

Troll of the week. If you really did start using jugg after para gem was released oh well that's sad pointing out we are talking about warrior vs rouge. Jugg was maybe needed when Rouge got buffed and hooks at 16 were released. How so ever awaking change the game completely as long as u can land CS properly and time ur heals jugg is not a must. The point is that you can't even kill with jugg build due lack of dmg so why would you vs?

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**zauilet** · 10-10-2016, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by bigjeezy

Troll of the week. If you really did start using jugg after para gem was released oh well that's sad pointing out we are talking about warrior vs rouge. Jugg was maybe needed when Rouge got buffed and hooks at 16 were released. How so ever awaking change the game completely as long as u can land CS properly and time ur heals jugg is not a must. The point is that you can't even kill with jugg build due lack of dmg so why would you vs?

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Troll of the week huh?
Eh real funny Fonzie +.+
Maybe if u wereva PvP tank u would know that no rogues/mage do vs if tank uses jugg
Omg how many times I have to repeat this sentence...n get out in real pvp world and see if I'm lying before saying "troll of the week"
If I'm troll of the week u sound more like troll of years.. Zzz
And the way u talk.. U look like a pro...why don't u tell me which skills should I use if I vs with a rogue and heal is allowed/not allowed

**resurrected** · 10-10-2016, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by zauilet

Troll of the week huh?
Eh real funny Fonzie +.+
Maybe if u wereva PvP tank u would know that no rogues/mage do vs if tank uses jugg
Omg how many times I have to repeat this sentence...n get out in real pvp world and see if I'm lying before saying "troll of the week"
If I'm troll of the week u sound more like troll of years.. Zzz
And the way u talk.. U look like a pro...why don't u tell me which skills should I use if I vs with a rogue and heal is allowed/not allowed

Actually If rogue is skilled he/she can defeat jugg tank. It will just take abit longer... Hmm i myself know rogue 15 who could do that.

**bigjeezy** · 10-10-2016, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by zauilet

Troll of the week huh?
Eh real funny Fonzie +.+
Maybe if u wereva PvP tank u would know that no rogues/mage do vs if tank uses jugg
Omg how many times I have to repeat this sentence...n get out in real pvp world and see if I'm lying before saying "troll of the week"
If I'm troll of the week u sound more like troll of years.. Zzz
And the way u talk.. U look like a pro...why don't u tell me which skills should I use if I vs with a rogue and heal is allowed/not allowed

First off my comment was not even pointed at you. Second you can forget about me giving you any tips due been rude as hell and obviously a clueless pvp warrior...yeah I'm here just chatting I never played warrior nor 16lv. Just enjoying wasting my time reading you hilarious conversation you guys have set up here.

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**Plqgue** · 10-10-2016, 03:28 PM

Wouldn't jugg heal cs and axe do it as the rogue will run out of mana first ? Or am I mistaken?

**resurrected** · 10-10-2016, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

Wouldn't jugg heal cs and axe do it as the rogue will run out of mana first ? Or am I mistaken?

This setup will just make you run of mana

and even nekro as base have amazing mana regen at 15/16. If you don't have nerko then rip you too with this build. You need at least samael or mishi with mm as hb. If rogue have one of above then there is very little change rogue will stay without mana during vs

**Plqgue** · 10-10-2016, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by resurrected

This setup will just make you run of mana

and even nekro as base have amazing mana regen at 15/16. If you don't have nerko then rip you too with this build. You need at least samael or mishi with mm as hb. If rogue have one of above then there is very little change rogue will stay without mana during vs

Wow rogues with unlimited mana that's bs

**resurrected** · 10-10-2016, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

Wow rogues with unlimited mana that's bs

Not its not bs these times.
Most of maxed rogues use mishi/Sam as base pet and at least forest and mountain location.

**resurrected** · 10-10-2016, 03:38 PM

I'll add that smart rogues won't hit during juggernaut or when nekro shield is on with high hp. Saving mana for combo when most/all tank defensive skills are in CD and boom...