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    Quote Originally Posted by resurrected View Post
    Its quite possible. I myself with my rogue in cap 41/46 used 10-15k in week. I was extremely farming planar tombs and arena. ( holidays free time )
    I meant that it was spread through quite a lot of time. It's normal for all classes to spend money on potions, and over time it's obvious that it's going to add up.

    Let's put it like this, mana loving rogues: if you were a mage, would you like to use heal to save the rogue 3 mana potions, just so you can desperately spawn health potions, likely die and use an ankh or miss out on the loot?

    Say you're in Somberholt, you won't get the potential pink drop, will miss out on all the rank points, will slow down the run and potentially even miss out the boss, because rogues are so fast at killing bosses and don't really wait for the mana healing mage if he's too slow... (in pugs. You'll piss off your party players too if they have to wait for you while the boss whacks at them at 10% hp)

    Say you're in Arena at lvl41-46 cap and you're a mana healing mage. Arena bosses deal heavy damage, and as soon as you use heal - you're dead. Now what? Use an ankh (2k) because you said the rogue 3 mana pots (15g)? Or respawn for free, and slow down the run (and missing the Arena chest if you didn't realize it was the last boss!)? Or stare at the death screen till they finish fighting for you (now useless)? What was your contribution to the fight? 3 mana pots? That's all mages are for? Of course, you could heal in the 20 seconds between a fight and another, but not using it at all DURING the fight would be a waste of a skill slot (this applies to all maps).

    Say you're in Planar Tombs during 41-46. You're going to get wiped by the mobs there as soon as you use heal because, well, Planar Tombs was no joke back then. Then you're going to respond for free, and if there's no other mage the mobs will no longer be stunned... Meaning the remaining 3 people there (including the mana loving rogue) will receive considerably heavier damage, meaning they'll have to use more health potions (which cost more than mana potions omg o

    So, as a Mage, will you still be using heal in hard maps? >.<
    I'd rather take shield, wouldn't you?
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    Heal is probably the best skill of the game, it can instant full heal a warrior, add a heal tick to prevent deadly combos from mobs also taunt if need, add full mana to the whole team so the team can use his focus and fingers on sumthing other and
    a spray of luve and happyness that renforce the teamwork. Even spawn a sweet saplin ).

    And you can either chose to play with or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JesuisCharlie View Post
    Heal is probably the best skill of the game, it can instant full heal a warrior, add a heal tick to prevent deadly combos from mobs also taunt if need, add full mana to the whole team so the team can use his focus and fingers on sumthing other and
    a spray of luve and happyness that renforce the teamwork. Even spawn a sweet saplin ).

    And you can either chose to play with or not.
    I luv thiz gamz
    Very very very very correct.
    90% of rogues are trolls

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesuisCharlie View Post
    Heal is probably the best skill of the game, it can instant full heal a warrior, add a heal tick to prevent deadly combos from mobs also taunt if need, add full mana to the whole team so the team can use his focus and fingers on sumthing other and
    a spray of luve and happyness that renforce the teamwork. Even spawn a sweet saplin ).

    And you can either chose to play with or not.
    I luv thiz gamz
    Oh, I was kinda expecting this guy to appear (sooner) xD

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    Just put them on ignore and leave the map if they leech. Still they gonna have to bear a fact that the lifegiver in pve can slow them down on completing the whole map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vvildfire View Post
    Oh, I was kinda expecting this guy to appear (sooner) xD
    Bro! Healing spell on all 4 slots + enhancement taunt on weapon is overpowered...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by creeepycreeepy View Post
    Bro! Healing spell on all 4 slots + enhancement taunt on weapon is overpowered...lol
    Make sure to have heal and shield mastery

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    Quote Originally Posted by resurrected View Post
    Make sure to have heal and shield mastery
    Shield slows runs down bro. Need only heal spells n mastery xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by creeepycreeepy View Post
    Shield slows runs down bro. Need only heal spells n mastery xD
    Second best PvE skill after heal is curse

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    Quote Originally Posted by resurrected View Post
    Second best PvE skill after heal is curse
    Agreed bro its dot is so pro you cant even see it.

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    I can't remember the last time I used a mana pot.
    #JackOnAllPets

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    Unfortunaly, curse need a rework because of his rang of only 6meters with the upgrade.
    But your almost right, curse perfect use it when you can use it with arcane shield. Its fun to play as a support/tanky sorcerer but not very usefull on the actual gameplay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesuisCharlie View Post
    Unfortunaly, curse need a rework because of his rang of only 6meters with the upgrade.
    But your almost right, curse perfect use it when you can use it with arcane shield. Its fun to play as a support/tanky sorcerer but not very usefull on the actual gameplay.
    Its perfect for actual game play. Curse heal shield wind. Just gotta know how to work it right and you will be a sucksessful sorcerer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creeepycreeepy View Post
    Bro! Healing spell on all 4 slots + enhancement taunt on weapon is overpowered...lol
    Omg never thought of it. 4 times back to back heal means never dead. I hope all mages learn from this and do this soon.
    90% of rogues are trolls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Att View Post
    Omg never thought of it. 4 times back to back heal means never dead. I hope all mages learn from this and do this soon.
    If mage without sheild still... Die

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    Quote Originally Posted by avikk View Post
    pls stop telling mana mages how to survive... all we need is to teach mana mages when to shield...
    I use [sheild][fire ball][Lightning/wind][heal]
    Works fine with me, can use heal and sheild

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    Just noticed from playing with pugs if mages are not supposed to heal then why mages expect warriors to heal them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmaresmoke View Post
    Just noticed from playing with pugs if mages are not supposed to heal then why mages expect warriors to heal them?
    Ever seen a mage rage at a warrior for not healing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by creeepycreeepy View Post
    Ever seen a mage rage at a warrior for not healing?
    Yeah occasionally and sometimes vise versa.

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    If mages job are to fulfill rogues mana, why the hell that potions buttons doing there on screen??!?

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