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    Default Demonic vs Glyph - a detailed comparison

    With demonic sets (crafted lv60 glyph sets) released, I thought it would be useful to share what the difference is with regular glyph sets (aside from looks). This way, anyone who intends to go through the (expensive) process of crafting their lv60 sets, can at least make an informed decision.

    This is how the new sets look (as posted in another thread):






    Let’s start with the INT (wand/bracer) set


    Glyph Int set (please note, that in the stats pic, I’m wearing a 2crit, 20mana, 4armor ring, no vanities equipped):


    Demonic Int set:




    Stats for Wand/Bracer at lv61 are:

    Glyph/Demonic/Difference

    Int : 390/405/15 Int

    Hit : 104/106/2 Hit

    Crit : 29/29/-

    Dodge : 7/7/-

    Health : 400/400/-

    H/s : 28/36/8 H/s

    Mana : 795/802/7 mana

    M/s : 28/28

    Dmg : 191-236/203-248/12 Dmg

    Dps : 213/225/12 Dps

    Armor: 154/162/8 armor

    Lightning dmg: 280-422/293-440/13-18 skill dmg


    So, this is what you gain by crafting your INT set: 15Int, 2Hit, 8H/s, 7mana, 12Dmg, 8 armor and 13-18skill dmg



    Next up, is the Dex (autobow) set


    Glyph Dex set



    Demonic Dex Set (thanks to Arsenal)



    Stats for autobow set (lv61) are:


    Glyph/Demonic/Difference

    Dex : 370/382/12 Dex

    Hit : 139/141/2 Hit

    Crit : 36/36/-

    Dodge : 6/6/-

    Health : 521/521/-

    H/s : 25/31/6 H/s

    Mana : 520/520/-

    M/s : 15/15/-

    Dmg : 241-253/251-263/10 Dmg

    Dps : 329/343/14 Dps

    Armor: 106/110/4 armor

    Blast shot: 391-412/404-425/13 skill dmg


    Gained from crafting: 12Dex, 2Hit, 6H/s, 10Dmg, 4 armor and 13 skill dmg


    EDIT: Added Staff Set comparison

    Glyph Staff set




    Demonic Staff set




    Stats comparison:

    (added 5 Int to Glyph set because of being LV60 instead of LV61. Also added 1 skill dmg for the Glyph set (5 Int more). 1 crit is probably because of the extra 5 int, together with rounding of stats)


    Glyph/Demonic/difference

    Int: 370/382/12 Int

    Hit %: 102/104/2 Hit

    Critical Hit: 27/28/- (probably because of added Int together with rounding of stats, so basically no difference)

    Dodge: 3/3/-

    Health Pool: 400/400/-

    Health Regen: 23/29/6 H/s

    Mana Pool: 782/791/9 Mana

    Mana Regen: 23/23/-

    Damage: 236-259/246-269/10 dmg

    Dps: 225/234/9 dps

    Armor: 108/116/8 armor

    Skill dmg lightning: 324-463/335-477/11-14 dmg


    So, again, you’ll gain following with crafting: 12 Int, 2 Hit, 6 H/s, 9 Mana, 10 Dmg, 8 armor, 11-14 skill dmg


    Edit 2: Added STR (mace) set

    Glyph Mace Set (thanks to Rolocoaster)




    Demonic Mace Set (thanks to Tankkaar)




    Stats comparison:

    Glyph/Demonic/Difference

    Str: 223/238/15 Str

    Hit: 92/92/-

    Critical: 13/13/-

    Dodge: 29/29/-

    Health: 716/723/7

    Health regen: 32/41/9 H/s

    Mana: 400/400/-

    Mana regen: 20/20/-

    Damage: 259-334/263-338/4 dmg

    Armor: 188/197/9 armor

    Stomp dmg: 266-286/271-292/5-6 skill dmg


    Gained by crafting (note that results may vary slightly depending on how much str/dex): 15 str, 7 health, 9 H/s, 4 dmg, 9 armor, 5-6 skill dmg


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    Very nice bro. I'm quite impressed that the crafted sets don't make the existing glyph sets way overpowered, but still better. Eg, RR to Custom.

    Thanks for this, been wanting to see the comparison

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    Very nice comparison. Last thing to do is str set!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    Very nice bro. I'm quite impressed that the crafted sets don't make the existing glyph sets way underpowered, but still better. Eg, RR to Custom.

    Thanks for this, been wanting to see the comparison
    Thx Elly! (and, fixed )

    And yes, I agree, I'm also happy that there isn't a HUGE difference, but still enough to be noticable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    Thx Elly! (and, fixed )

    And yes, I agree, I'm also happy that there isn't a HUGE difference, but still enough to be noticable.
    Oops, thanks for that too! Lol, Crafted sets making glyphs overpowered.. What was I thinking.

    Look-wise though, crafted blows glyph out of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    Thx Elly! (and, fixed )

    And yes, I agree, I'm also happy that there isn't a HUGE difference, but still enough to be noticable.
    Same.
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    Thank you for this analysis J, really good info here.


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    All noted it before, there is no tradeoff in crafting glyph items - only advantages. Someone can wonder if MM set is better than Enchanted in some situations, but not here. I cannot imagine what new elite campaign pinks will be...

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    Demonic is just better, no big surprise.

    But I wonder what will give mount fang now???
    A normal set that is close to demonic?
    Or something in between glyph and demonic.

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    Someone loan Jaytb a demonic staff. I want to see that set comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvonnel View Post
    Someone loan Jaytb a demonic staff. I want to see that set comparison.

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    I actually have the demonic staff, I just didn't have the glyph staff anymore. If you want, I can post pics of the stats in a bit. Just let me know


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    Nice comparison...wonder why no extra crit with crafted dex set? I wanted to at least see it match custom in that area. I think im good with my obedience for now until crafting items go down in price at least.

    Cant beat the looks of demonic though...best looking set besides death on the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakatoa91 View Post
    Demonic is just better, no big surprise.

    But I wonder what will give mount fang now???
    A normal set that is close to demonic?
    Or something in between glyph and demonic.
    Or something that is better than demonic. Like Shadow Caves is better than AO3.

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    Added Glyph/demonic staff set


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    Nice comparision Jaytb. Been looking for someone to do this. Thanks!

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    Guys I'm such a Noob. I bought 3 para leather scraps thinking this was the last things j needed in crafting my Denomic armor, then I find out it's fiber not scraps and is like 1.5 mil for 2 fibers :/ so now already bought everything else have nogold and worth less crafting material. I'm such a noob
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    Quote Originally Posted by apocketlegend View Post
    Guys I'm such a Noob. I bought 3 para leather scraps thinking this was the last things j needed in crafting my Denomic armor, then I find out it's fiber not scraps and is like 1.5 mil for 2 fibers :/ so now already bought everything else have nogold and worth less crafting material. I'm such a noob
    That's not being a noob, that's just being human IMO. Humans make mistakes. Anyway, why don't you just resell them on CS? They're quite popular right now. That way you can recover some (or all) of the gold you lost


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    Awesome post. Anxiously awaiting comparison of str sets. Thanks.

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    Awesome comparision thrread! Its great being able to see the stats side by side like this really let's you see you see that what your up against and putting your money into. If you want to borro my Demonic mace set for comparison pictures let me know

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    Quote Originally Posted by TANKKAAR View Post
    Awesome comparision thrread! Its great being able to see the stats side by side like this really let's you see you see that what your up against and putting your money into. If you want to borro my Demonic mace set for comparison pictures let me know

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    Thx!

    Only thing is, I don't have a regular strongman set to compare it to. Also, panda isn't 60 yet (although that shouldn't take very long).


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