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    So we are looking at 66 dodge total with buffs and crown set. Namely, 2/3 out of all hits are dodged!

    Arguably more useful in pve than strongmans, where dodging the procs is important for a tank. The higher hit should compensate for the lower base damage. There are mobs that do debuff in Nuri, although I can't remember what they debuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoIsThis View Post
    So we are looking at 66 dodge total with buffs and crown set. Namely, 2/3 out of all hits are dodged!

    Arguably more useful in pve than strongmans, where dodging the procs is important for a tank. The higher hit should compensate for the lower base damage. There are mobs that do debuff in Nuri, although I can't remember what they debuff.
    Yup, same in PvP. I guess it really calls for what situation you're in. Just like the previous Fortified (damage, HS, armor) versus RS Helm/Plate/Rooter/Fury Hybrid (dodge and Hit %).

    Factoring in cost though, BT is so much cheaper.

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    Other thoughts:

    You cannot as a tank be conservative with health potions in Nuri's Hallows. I once saw a tank refuse to lead because he didn't want to spend money on pots!

    Well, with the big top and strongmans, mana won't be a problem, but health potions should always be brought in generous supply.

    Don't rely 100% on mages either. Large mobs hit too hard for heal to keep up sometimes.

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    There are a few tanks that have argued in favor of int bears for the hallows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoIsThis View Post
    Other thoughts:

    You cannot as a tank be conservative with health potions in Nuri's Hallows. I once saw a tank refuse to lead because he didn't want to spend money on pots!

    Well, with the big top and strongmans, mana won't be a problem, but health potions should always be brought in generous supply.

    Don't rely 100% on mages either. Large mobs hit too hard for heal to keep up sometimes.
    I truly can't imagine how any self respecting bear can make it that far into the game (Nuri) without a sense of independently heath potting themselves to stay alive and do his/her part for the team. I hope that player wised up quickly for all of our sake if we happen to be in the same group.
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    Thanks elly, very helpful guide. I've been using it as I'm levelling my bear now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evaruss View Post
    Thanks elly, very helpful guide. I've been using it as I'm levelling my bear now
    What?? You have a bear and didnt tell me???? Mean looks through the screen!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    What?? You have a bear and didnt tell me???? Mean looks through the screen!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo View Post
    Evabug.
    Even worse!! Parth knows before me! LOL

    Just wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Even worse!! Parth knows before me! LOL

    Just wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    What?? You have a bear and didnt tell me???? Mean looks through the screen!!
    Crim, you made me laugh irl. I was shy, its only a level 50 bear I intend to level it more though. Bears are funnnnn!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by neko:444803

    I truly can't imagine how any self respecting bear can make it that far into the game (Nuri) without a sense of independently heath potting themselves to stay alive and do his/her part for the team. I hope that player wised up quickly for all of our sake if we happen to be in the same group.
    There are quite a few pug bears out there whose performance is questionable. Some stay to the rear of the team. They don't taunt, and rarely use their slashes or crushing blow. Worse, quite a few bears tend to scatter when they activate the smash combo and send targets all over the place rather than against the wall. Oh and many of these players aren't receptive to feedback.
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    Scatterbears ftw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert7204 View Post
    Scatterbears ftw!
    Best post ever.

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    another awesome guide! thanks alot! i like the video too
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    *sigh* today i meet a bear that did no CC what so ever and when i asked him y he didnt he just said i dont know what that is and i said i havent seen u use beckon once and he said i dont have any points in that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cytokinesis View Post
    *sigh* today i meet a bear that did no CC what so ever and when i asked him y he didnt he just said i dont know what that is and i said i havent seen u use beckon once and he said i dont have any points in that
    This makes me throw up a little in my mouth.
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    This guide is brilliant, finally I know exactly what I should be doing as a bear.. I knew I was supposed to tank but couldn't seem to get aggro, had no idea that's what Taunt was for.. derp.

    There's no option to thank you for the post.. :/
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    This is really great, have you considered making this a blog post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moderator7 View Post
    This is really great, have you considered making this a blog post?
    Thank you! Yeah, I'm considering it now after you mention it

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