Offical Alien Oasis 2 Feedback Thread

**Azrael** · 06-29-2010, 07:52 PM

No two handers so far either.

And Esus... Chill out. Not only are you wrong... but the devs have casual players in mind 90% of the time. Pinks are pinks for a reason. they are supposed to be rare. If you want to be casual, deal with purples. What you want forces everyone to be casual, rather than let people choose. Not only that, but you want players to be done with the expansion in a matter of hours. You are clearly annoyed, but the drop rate is just fine.

If you don't want to play a lot, then you should be happy with the a pink or two, buying a pink if you need it, or playing with purples. There is a reason purples are in the game. Its for people who didn't grind enough to find the pink. They are still good, but they aren't legendary. I can't understand why people think they should be able to find all the gear they want playing 1-2 hours a day in less than a week. We PAY for these expansion... we want them to LAST MORE THAN A DAY.

**bmc85uk** · 06-29-2010, 08:32 PM

Completely agree with Azrael, I think for once droprates are really on the mark, if everyone's gonna settle for nothing but pinks, then delete EVERY other grade from the game, make more gold drop and we'll all have a real fun time playing.

It's gonna take me a long while to get my setup (2-3 weeks I reckon), I want it NOW! But I'm so content in the knowledge that it WILL come eventually (unlike the now redundant AO1 droprates and the appauling early campaign ones), and the more I play the sooner that will be :-)

**tjornan** · 06-29-2010, 08:34 PM

I liked the swamps. where some bosses actually dropped pinks. now its just that L'ROXXXX guy and hes at the end of the maze..... so ya. but its all cool. cuz im a hardcore player

**Furrawn** · 06-29-2010, 09:54 PM

This is a massive oversimplification. NOBODY said anything about thinking pinks should be handed out like candy. Yes, the more you play, the more you'll get good gear-MAYBE. The drops are inconsistent. If campaigns can be played for HOURS and someone doesn't even walk away with a purple then I think the drop rate is too low. Or more likely, it's inconsistent. I don't want anything handed to me. Gear matters. Period. And pinks are viewed as more than gear- they are part of the reward of being a good player...and playing pretty much daily... And of buying the new campaigns the hour they come out. I do not and have never espoused that pinks be EASY to get. Skeller is not fun as far as gear goes- it's much too easy. Ah- but now I'm sure i'm being judged for buying Skeller. Go ahead. It was a new set of maps. And support for the devs. So- I purchased it. As for PL general, there are probably a lot of us non-elite that play daily. I daresay we are important to the game. I keep hearing all that matters are the hardcore players. And the definition of hardcore is VERY severe. I doubt that the majority of us players are putting in more than a couple of hours a day. I'm tired of feeling looked down upon

It is my game as much as anyone else's. I have the right to my opinion as a consistent player of this game. So does Esus. So does Azrael. Maybe we disagree, fine. But don't lambast me as just being a casual player as if it's a dirty word and as if it means that I expect and want things easy. I don't. I resent all the grandiose assumptions made that "non-elite" players don't want hard quests, etc. That's not true.
I didn't say that I want anything easy. But drops should be consistent. If I'd seen some of the drops some folks describe, my opinion would be that the drops are fine... But the drops I saw were much less than some have described in this thread. Regardless, my opinion is worth as much as any "Elite" members- and if it's not, I can leave. Though I suspect that the devs manage to eat because of all us non-elite players.

Devs- I apologize for writing this in a thread that should just be celebrating the truly fantastic AO2 campaign you've created...

I had to defend myself though.

**tjornan** · 06-29-2010, 09:56 PM

Yes ill put it in a simpler form so u dont have to spend 30 minutes reading furrawns post.

If youre a hardcore player you get better equips. its that simple. we play more, so we shud get better stuff.

THE PINK DROP RATE IS GREAT! IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN PLAY MORE! BUT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE! PINKS ARE RANDOM, ITS JUST HARDER CORE PLAYERS HAVE A BETTER CHANCE

**Nouda** · 06-29-2010, 10:31 PM

8 hours later i have gotten 0 pinks and two purples

plus ive seen no new 2h swords that drop ingame not the platninum ones

map is nothing new

still im hooked

**Banned** · 06-29-2010, 10:52 PM

Alright, no pink dagger, wand, talon, or 2h in sight. What is going on? Is there no care for the players that use these weapons? Two campagins bought, and I'm still using level 35 weapons. I don't wanna hear, "Oh, it's going to be in AO3". No, we need the weapons NOW, not in a month, NOW. I shouldn't have to purchase 3 campaigns to have an upgrade in weaponry. And if that's not the case, then what is the reason for not adding in these weapons?

**roguedubb** · 06-29-2010, 11:29 PM

Played all the way through AO2 today. I really liked the darkness and playing through each level the first time was great - lots of anticipation and wondering when we were going to stumble upon a boss or something that would really smack us around. The inside dungeons look great. Personally I think the aliens look hilarious and the alien boss names are great! Great work.

We had four or five pink drops over the entire AO2 content, which seems rare enough to make them truly valuable, yet still obtainable with persistence. I imagine the auction haus will help with the distribution of pinks - at the minute I know I am sitting on a large stash of pinks that I am sure some people would want, but sitting around in towne trying to sell stuff yields little return especially when I could solo and make about 1k per 5min.

In a decently geared group I'm still yet to encounter a fight that requires a tank. Are there going to be any harder encounters? Or is the idea to cut back on the pink drops so that people can't gear up so quickly and thus the encounters remain challenging for a longer period?

**maneut** · 06-29-2010, 11:39 PM

I think the drop rate is fine as it is now. As in any other MMO game, it's impossible to please everyone

But in the end, we all learn to live with it. The important thing is that, at the end of the day, it's a Game! So just enjoy it and make friends, be merry and have some fun

Peace!

Now if only Time can fly faster so I can go home and play!

**Furrawn** · 06-29-2010, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by tjornan

Yes ill put it in a simpler form so u dont have to spend 30 minutes reading furrawns post.

If youre a hardcore player you get better equips. its that simple. we play more, so we shud get better stuff.

THE PINK DROP RATE IS GREAT! IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN PLAY MORE! BUT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE! PINKS ARE RANDOM, ITS JUST HARDER CORE PLAYERS HAVE A BETTER CHANCE

The above is NOT the gist of my post.

And TJ? You are being disrespectful and dismissing to me. I don't treat you that way.
Plenty of people leave lengthy posts, but you are dismissive of mine because you disagree with it. That's not helpful to anyone. I don't act like what you say doesn't matter- whether I agree with it or not. Everyone in this game should get respect and consideration as long as they bring the same to the table.

When all is said & done, I don't think loot drop rates are the problem. I think the problem is the drop rate is inconsistent. Because of that, people can conceivably play for hours & never get a single pink. That and maybe the pink drops shouldn't all only happen in level 6 unless the devs only want people to play in level 6.

**Royce** · 06-30-2010, 06:53 AM

I love the new maps, especially the indoor ones. The drop rate seems about perfect. My only major issue so far is the lack of legendaries for certain item types. I hope that can be fixed in a patch like was done in the swamps, rather than waiting for AO3. The common mobs are a bit to hearty in the later pyramids. I was in a 3 player party, and it was just taking us forever to slog through each hallway until we finally decided to chug some damage elixers. I don't want the game to be easy, but it's not that these mobs are hard. They had no chance of killing us. It just took us forever to cut through them, to the point where it was somewhat humorous, but anyway that's a minor issue.