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    Quote Originally Posted by MageFFA View Post
    People fail to realize so much stuff. Like how did StS think no restrictions was compatible with PvP? This isn't a shooting game where everyone has an equal footing to kill each other. We have levels in this and each level gives better gear and higher stats than the next. By removing PvP restrictions everything under 99 is irrelevant because they don't mean anything anymore. Might as well delete all the work you've done since this game came out because they are no longer relevant in anyway. New players can't level up by themselves and that's what guilds like hands for help and epic impact was for. Yet they are mostly doing their thing in L.100. Prices are extremely low so what ever newer players farm won't get them any gold. PvP wise is even worse. As i stated before I'll state again. Boot doesn't work. By the time you done booting the match will be either over or everyone left out of boredom. Hosting doesn't work because humans are not Gods with omniscience to know everyone who still PvPs in those zones. Inviting friends will get boring so GG. "Go to L.100" as i stated again these L.100s do a better job at killing lower zones to boost their irrelevant KD(as if KD means anything when you still get 10-1ed on a daily basis) then they do at fighting their own level. Now I'm not gonna call this noob out over forum but boy let me tell you something about this dude. I was enjoying PvP in 56 and watching one of my guildmates fight. This dude kills me. I let that slide (Big mistake) he kills me again i gave him a warning with my catchphrase of Godhood "Do you mind?" He said no then killed me again. I grab my 100 he drops. Found him again then complained about me being L.100 and left. So what was the point of making a L.100 if the people you are supposed to be fighting just leaves the minute they see you? You can kill someone that's 44 levels under you but do not have the common courtesy to fight their L.100 who is the same level? It's like from my perspective nigh everyone boosts in L.100 and only a few would stay to fight that players L.100. When we are in our zones PvPing these level 100s like to remove some of their armor and say go. Just ignore the L.10 buffs. Ignore the L.10 100 rage buff. You should win right? WRONG. We die each time. Now i know some people might reply raging at this but honestly i really don't care I'm just stating the facts. The excuse people was complaining about the 5 level restrictions this and that, it's a lie because half the time people also had the same levels. People complain about rushing is irrelevant and should've always been ignored. Same with teaming. Until PvP restrictions go back to 5 this game damaged.
    "People fail to realize so much stuff" - and then put together everything limited to PL PvP environment, that's kinda funny.

    5 level high and 3vs 1/2 is a lie for sure because, as I already said that how people used to it cause that's how they started and played for long. They don't care that each time a newcomer come to arena is teamed by 3 and bullied by 2 more from his own team mate via text with the excuse rusher or noob. Do you expect that those players to come forums and complain that the pvp is not 'fair' or either stick to pve or simply just UNISTALL PL and find a 'better' game on the stores, even if a very few come to forum and complain about this, he would get humiliated by the 'pro' forum community.

    You're actually talking about a stable existing player base, who are more or less happy saying 'go' to each other 'pro' pvers and farm 'newgens', but that actually not EVERYTHING, it's hard truth and undeniable fact that the new comers that they made and making 'rage quit' everyday from pvp and likely from the game is pretty much huge and higher in number. So may I ask you a question? was this a 'fair' twinking, majority wins and to a majority it WAS NEVER 'FAIR' you people were happy with it, who were the exploiters MOSTLY, not to blame each and every person here. Also it's a fact that the density of newcomers to pvp is way much more higher in low levels because people try to do pvp pretty soon after they started playing PL.

    Don't compare such competitive game with a shooting game cause that's far away, if you need to compare with then do it with MOBA because that's pretty much close and that's the popular zoner of competitive game, for a competitive game to thrive there should be much more fair environment than that PL ever had, that's also maybe a reason that PL PVP was never reached to it's fullest potential, nothing to blame on players, system have to be much more fair for all. You've to play a match if you entered, if afk there's penalty, if left even got dc there's penalty, if you loose, your kdr shows loosing a match unlike PL, where you don't carry the match win/loose number only kill/death so people exploited accordingly. Joined a match and staying afk while it's 3-2/1 because they don't need to care and so on.

    But all that doesn't means that removing pvp join level restriction is the solution neither it's fair, if you're trying to justify how that's NOT fair, then I didn't say it's 'fair' in the first place EVER. There's a whole different aspect of doing this change unlike most of the people that thinks that it's to generate more money bringing twinkers to come endgame, it's complex than that.

    The second aspect and the real reason - PvP had to go through changes, pretty glad that it happened, but it was not possible to do that to all levels. Don't take that as 'possible or not' take that like gain/work ratio is extremely low. But it's way much better to work on a particular level which is most popular of all, also where atleast there can be some gain through level cap raise/new items etc. Also there was lack of factual feedbacks and proper suggestions rather than threads like this 'wow sts ruined twink by manipulating dodge' etc. THAT'S THE MAIN REASONS that cinco decided to bring all the juice into one place. The real solution is NOT to kick / private games etc, the real solution is to come endgame and take part in that, as stated by cinco himself before 100 CAP update that there can be more pvp tweaks after cap 100.
    Last edited by Waug; 07-30-2017 at 11:57 PM.

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