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    Quote Originally Posted by Waug View Post
    "I don't agree to rhinos being overpowered using axe" - Says every rhino that only plays with this class, nothing unexpected LOL.

    As I said that I'm keeping the pure stat guns outta this context because if everyone starts to use gun then the arena will get 1-2hit kills all over and that would require some serious tweaking.
    If it was overpowered wouldn't it be 2 shotting like the gun? Does the Term Over Powered not mean to be superior in every Way Shape or form? If rhinos axe was over powered as everyone claim then shouldn't rhino 10-0 every class with no effort in only a few hits? I've done many 1v1s with some very good birds and i can tell you sometimes the matches are close if not a stalemate. Maybe it's skill wise? I mean if Cold or Precut can legit have close fights if not win against me shouldn't everyone else who knows what they are doing? I'm a very defensive rhino and i usually sweep through birds little ease even when rhinos was at their weakest in 85 so they legit put me on full defensive. Theoretically birds cannot beat rhinos overall and that's backed up from 98% of all zones. Only places i know where birds can completey dominate rhinos are the likes of 45, sometimes 51, possibly 76 now. This isn't really new we all know this. Mages v supporting tank. Mages aren't Completely put out of Context like they were for years, is it logical that a rhino can sweep through them in a couple combos no but it's also illogical that a mage would run through a rhino as ease as it did for the last 5 years. Same with all other classes. That's why we want a tweak in dodge so attacks can land more and oh don't think just because you die from a rhino said rhino took no dmg. A bird alone gets me near death in some of my fights so i know a dodge nerf will force me into using Brute(I've been using no dodge build) but even then attacks will land because of said dodge nerf. Hit nerf so hit% debuffs can actually be relevant but this should be all class nerf for hit. Critical nerf for obvious reasons. 86 critical no buff on a rhino is begging for instant nukes. Yet all of this is flawed. Maybe if people changed their play style and tried timing your attacks after guardian leaves (birdies that make that darn rhino invincible Murica) or attack AFTER the rhino heals which is a freaking 5second heal delay....thats pretty darn long for a fight mate. In 5 seconds you can deal alot of dmg. Maybe people would win more often. Maybe if birds started rooting AFTER HEAL ADDED WITH ALL MAJOR ATTACKS will birds start killing rhinos more. Maybe if mages didn't spam frost and focus on attacking AFTER GUARDIAN(Birdies invincible Murica) or heal which is 5 seconds.....pretty long for a fight. Will they start killing that rhino off. Who knows maybe nemdomfighter, kurvie, lovefury, cold, and precut are just luck based. I mean Kurvie you yourself said rhinos can sometimes be countered with a change of play style. If the term OP was really the case for rhinos then even the least experienced rhinos would sweep through every experienced player in mage ( bears are weak to me stat wise i think rhino dmg dps should swap with bears dmg dps) and birds. Foxes are the only class who needs to complain about anything but that's for another discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageFFA View Post
    If it was overpowered wouldn't it be 2 shotting like the gun? Does the Term Over Powered not mean to be superior in every Way Shape or form? If rhinos axe was over powered as everyone claim then shouldn't rhino 10-0 every class with no effort in only a few hits? I've done many 1v1s with some very good birds and i can tell you sometimes the matches are close if not a stalemate. Maybe it's skill wise? I mean if Cold or Precut can legit have close fights if not win against me shouldn't everyone else who knows what they are doing? I'm a very defensive rhino and i usually sweep through birds little ease even when rhinos was at their weakest in 85 so they legit put me on full defensive. Theoretically birds cannot beat rhinos overall and that's backed up from 98% of all zones. Only places i know where birds can completey dominate rhinos are the likes of 45, sometimes 51, possibly 76 now. This isn't really new we all know this. Mages v supporting tank. Mages aren't Completely put out of Context like they were for years, is it logical that a rhino can sweep through them in a couple combos no but it's also illogical that a mage would run through a rhino as ease as it did for the last 5 years. Same with all other classes. That's why we want a tweak in dodge so attacks can land more and oh don't think just because you die from a rhino said rhino took no dmg. A bird alone gets me near death in some of my fights so i know a dodge nerf will force me into using Brute(I've been using no dodge build) but even then attacks will land because of said dodge nerf. Hit nerf so hit% debuffs can actually be relevant but this should be all class nerf for hit. Critical nerf for obvious reasons. 86 critical no buff on a rhino is begging for instant nukes. Yet all of this is flawed. Maybe if people changed their play style and tried timing your attacks after guardian leaves (birdies that make that darn rhino invincible Murica) or attack AFTER the rhino heals which is a freaking 5second heal delay....thats pretty darn long for a fight mate. In 5 seconds you can deal alot of dmg. Maybe people would win more often. Maybe if birds started rooting AFTER HEAL ADDED WITH ALL MAJOR ATTACKS will birds start killing rhinos more. Maybe if mages didn't spam frost and focus on attacking AFTER GUARDIAN(Birdies invincible Murica) or heal which is 5 seconds.....pretty long for a fight. Will they start killing that rhino off. Who knows maybe nemdomfighter, kurvie, lovefury, cold, and precut are just luck based. I mean Kurvie you yourself said rhinos can sometimes be countered with a change of play style. If the term OP was really the case for rhinos then even the least experienced rhinos would sweep through every experienced player in mage ( bears are weak to me stat wise i think rhino dmg dps should swap with bears dmg dps) and birds. Foxes are the only class who needs to complain about anything but that's for another discussion.
    You yourself made it clear that "as everyone claims rhino OP" in the above bolded line, in fact that those birds you named used to refer "no point fighting rhino" after getting reked by rhinos even in the pre dodge nerf phase when rhinos were less overpowered than compared to now, due to fact that damage itself was high.

    You trying to put yourself at the parameter of a perfect rhino here, a proper build & just decent rhino can destroy any other class any player, if you can't you need to tweak your tactics and/or builds, but ya as I already said, due to superior freezing capabilities of mages, a mage can kill it but that takes lots of effort and luck too.

    And why rhino is OP, already explained in my original post, it don't have to be 1-2 hit killer to be OP, what are you talking about? at least make some sense TBH. As already told you, your whole perspective is playing WITH rhino not AGAINST it, thus you're trying to put something tactical that aren't there ATALL simply those tactics don't & can't work because you're already dead before that & for other reasons. The only thing that can kill rhino after serious effort is to KEEP EM AWAY FROM YOU, the one & only tactic that can work against a rhino, and that's hard cause of 3 sec CD charge skill of rhino, where mage have slight advantage of superb freezes, that's where they get the chance & that's the main reason along with superb debuffs, it's comparably easier to kill rhino with a mage BUT still, rhino is much OP than mage, the chances are still narrow.
    Last edited by Waug; 10-24-2017 at 07:00 AM.

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