A take on bans

[Nightwatched]

hi guys,
like a wise man once said "the true fear of a wealthy man is his wealth"
i got items in game which i would not like to lose in the near future.
and "playing fair " does not give a gooood idea of what i should avoid and what not.
i really would like to know the cause of bans..

i know this type of topic was flagged saying that cheaters will find loopholes and avoid getting bans by G himself but..

i would like to know the major cases of bans which are not mentioned in the ToS in a set of words more UNDERSTANDABLE.

the things i know people get banned are for some reasons... (or i think)


1.)trying to use hackbot sites.
2.)impersonating devs.
3.)transferring huge sums to alts
4.)acc sharing

These i dont think are mentioned in the ToS explicitly.
i think a post has to be made IN GAME saying all the reasons of bans.

the thing is... all of ARLOR knows sts is very very strict about perma-bans..
so i think you should put up a huge bulletin of rules (which if broken) will result in(what type) of ban!

This will ensure many people to rest easy.
i think playing fair and breaking some unknown rule by indulging in some unknown talk could get you banned..


if a exhaustive rule list was put up and shared to all people and THEN the banning process is carried out.. i think that is better.
and if it would come..

i personally would abide by it to the fullest and also be happy that i am not at risk if i do a particular thing or say something..

ty

[Flamesofanger]

+1

I agree, there should be a bulletin board like the LB one but unique (In Game) With all the rules of the ToS Implemented and stating the "Do Not's" and especially to help raising a red flag to warn new players who

just discovered AL to be careful of certain scams like for Example, Those phiser sites

And the best way to make sure the new comers who join the game read the ToS rules on the bulletin board, is to add a quest specifically for discovering the bulletin board and

rewarding the player with a title like for example ---> [New Legend] Or [The Adventurer] Oh, or [New beginning]

[Gouiwaa9000]

Here is everything that can possibly get you accidentally banned ( well... atleast everything i can think off ) :

using a different language : whats that ? 20 mutes per day ? BAN ! ... no seriously idk how many mutes it takes to get a ban , but trying to type in a diffident language is a fast way to find out .

Name selling : if you delete a name and then transfer an amount of gold to the account that reserved that name .. that would look suspicious even if its accidental like trading or buying items from cs .

Gold selling : Any suspicious transaction of huge amounts of gold to a new account/alt ( i think i have an idea of how sts determines this , just make sure to log into the new account from all devices that you use to play AL before moving the gold )

Botting : just dont do it , you wont be accidentally banned for this one unless you look like a zombie running hauntlet 24/7

Chat bots : you might be accidentally banned if you paste a suspicious link in chat , dont say something like .... " guys dont visit the site [site name thats currently spammed by bots] " im guessing sts uses an auto-ban system for this , i dont think it cares what you write before or after typing the link .

acc sharing : just be careful from what and from where you log into your account , i dont know what sts has access to besides the IP , but doing something like constantly changing ip's and devices will make you look rather suspicious .

- question to devs : i sometimes use a nice little script that routes all traffic trough tor , if one day i forget to disable it and log into AL , will it raise some red flags for account sharing ?

----------------------------------------these are my guesses on what gets people banned on accident , nothing is confirmed by devs--------------------------------------------------

[Tippertwo]

Here is everything that can possibly get you accidentally banned ( well... atleast everything i can think off ) :

using a different language : whats that ? 20 mutes per day ? BAN ! ... no seriously idk how many mutes it takes to get a ban , but trying to type in a diffident language is a fast way to find out .

You can get banned from using a diff language?!?
Lol this is as bad as me finding out just yesterday that there is a /v for visiting houses.

[Gouiwaa9000]

You can get banned from using a diff language?!?
Lol this is as bad as me finding out just yesterday that there is a /v for visiting houses.

well , you cant get banned for using a diff language but you can get banned if you get muted a lot . With the way sts chat filter works , you will often get randomly muted while trying to type something .
Example : french word for shower ( this is a rather obvious one , sometimes i have no idea what caused the mute )

[Tippertwo]

well , you cant get banned for using a diff language but you can get banned if you get muted a lot . With the way sts chat filter works , you will often get randomly muted while trying to type something .
Example : french word for shower ( this is a rather obvious one , sometimes i have no idea what caused the mute )

Yeah it got so ridiculous that I unfiltered the chat. I got muted for typos. TYPOS, for crying out loud!!! :')

[Rehired]

Yeah it got so ridiculous that I unfiltered the chat. I got muted for typos. TYPOS, for crying out loud!!! :')

LOL... I know what you mean, for real.

[Allset]

- question to devs : i sometimes use a nice little script that routes all traffic trough tor , if one day i forget to disable it and log into AL , will it raise some red flags for account sharing ?

You could get banned I mean you are hiding your ip address and using ip's from other countries. But if the script is running the lag will be noticeable on your ping. So just logout stop the script & relog.

[TipsyLife]

+1 for this idea because I know some people play this game, they don't have forums and never heard of "tos"..would be nice if u can implement the dos and don't on the lb for people to refresh on...make it simple..u don't have to use big words just for people to understand

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[Gouiwaa9000]

+1 for this idea because I know some people play this game, they don't have forums and never heard of "tos"..would be nice if u can implement the dos and don't on the lb for people to refresh on...make it simple..u don't have to use big words just for people to understand

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perhaps it can be placed in a community writen guide book that can also contain a proper tutorial for new players

*cough*suggested a million times*cough*

[Zynzyn]

If sts lists specifically the situations one can get banned for, there maybe cases that cannot be foreseen at a given time and offenders may say that -this was not mentioned on the official list- and try to get away. Moreover offenders are usually a certain type of player, and sts should catch them unawares. If they already hint/warn about each and every TOS break then those players will try to find a workaround.

[Suentous PO]

It's already in game before you log in, and kids don't read it there...



And as Zynzyn said, more specific gives kids ideas for work arounds. Besides that sts has the right to change or interperate things as they choose.
It's not hard to not get banned, I don't see any need really.

[Tippertwo]

It's already in game before you log in, and kids don't read it there...



And as Zynzyn said, more specific gives kids ideas for work arounds. Besides that sts has the right to change or interperate things as they choose.
It's not hard to not get banned, I don't see any need really.

A lot of people don’t read the TOS before playing the game. They just scroll all the way to the bottom and click accept. Then they wonder why they got banned. If you don’t read the TOS the more likely you are to getting banned. A good rule of thumb is to review the rules once in awhile to refresh your memory. It will reduce the number of “why am I banned” threads on the forums. Not to mention a lot of ppl are immature and think they can get away with anything and they won’t get caught.

[TipsyLife]

A lot of people don’t read the TOS before playing the game. They just scroll all the way to the bottom and click accept. Then they wonder why they got banned. If you don’t read the TOS the more likely you are to getting banned. A good rule of thumb is to review the rules once in awhile to refresh your memory. It will reduce the number of “why am I banned” threads on the forums. Not to mention a lot of ppl are immature and think they can get away with anything and they won’t get caught.

Lmaoo seriously, c'mon who reads TOS..noobs will just click accept..I didn't find out about the TOS untill a year ago and I been playing for 4 years now

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[Tippertwo]

Lmaoo seriously, c'mon who reads TOS..noobs will just click accept..I didn't find out about the TOS untill a year ago and I been playing for 4 years now

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Let me tell you a secret. *Leans closer*
I didn't read it either!

[Sariita]

Lmaoo seriously, c'mon who reads TOS..noobs will just click accept..I didn't find out about the TOS untill a year ago and I been playing for 4 years now

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Umm... I'm THAT person that reads ToS's, user manuals and any rules just because.

I'm weird, I know.

[Tippertwo]

Umm... I'm THAT person that reads ToS's, user manuals and any rules just because.

I'm weird, I know.

Why would you do that when you can find out the hard way ...
Haha jk. I'm that kind of person who doesn't read manuals, finds out how to do it herself, only because she doesn't have the patience for it.

[Nightwatched]

Here is everything that can possibly get you accidentally banned ( well... atleast everything i can think off ) :

using a different language : whats that ? 20 mutes per day ? BAN ! ... no seriously idk how many mutes it takes to get a ban , but trying to type in a diffident language is a fast way to find out .

Name selling : if you delete a name and then transfer an amount of gold to the account that reserved that name .. that would look suspicious even if its accidental like trading or buying items from cs .

Gold selling : Any suspicious transaction of huge amounts of gold to a new account/alt ( i think i have an idea of how sts determines this , just make sure to log into the new account from all devices that you use to play AL before moving the gold )

Botting : just dont do it , you wont be accidentally banned for this one unless you look like a zombie running hauntlet 24/7

Chat bots : you might be accidentally banned if you paste a suspicious link in chat , dont say something like .... " guys dont visit the site [site name thats currently spammed by bots] " im guessing sts uses an auto-ban system for this , i dont think it cares what you write before or after typing the link .

acc sharing : just be careful from what and from where you log into your account , i dont know what sts has access to besides the IP , but doing something like constantly changing ip's and devices will make you look rather suspicious .

- question to devs : i sometimes use a nice little script that routes all traffic trough tor , if one day i forget to disable it and log into AL , will it raise some red flags for account sharing ?

----------------------------------------these are my guesses on what gets people banned on accident , nothing is confirmed by devs--------------------------------------------------

omg.. i did not have a near clue to whether these are ban-able.

guys.. for the people who are saying no to this.. just think about the new players.

it will make them really aware of what not to do in Arlor.
moreover i think if you post it out there...the rate of this can even fall im sure..
some newbies really need solid instructions and mainly the ToS is not effective for these reasons:
1.) It is under login page and psychologically i have never clicked it in my 4 years in Al except when i got on forum a year back.
think about the newbies.
2.)The wording in thy ToS, is JUST too hard to interpret COMPARED to what is actually happening and which can get you banned.


The people who are saying the people can get away with their scams...
my thing is.. let them escape and run and hide..BUT
What harm do the scammers pose when the whole population of Arlor is warned about all types of thefts/scams/trashtalk/impersonation etc are warned to all the new and OLD plahers beforehand.


i really think this should be implemented..
it should include a exhaustive list because there many things that hurt me in the game recently and people should be notified OFFICIALLY that what they are trying to pull off is illegal and is etched somewhere permanently in Arlor.

and

I think this will surely reduce the "Why am i banned" threads
ty

[Azerothraven]

If I have to ask myself, is this shady or against tos? Then I assume the answer is yes and don’t do it.

It worked out well. Never got banned even by accident.

I travel a lot but generally I use my phone or computer and in rare cases the computers in my university/ families.

P.s. I got like 4 brothers who also play AL on same devices and alternate turns and none of us have gotten banned.

General things to avoid

- don’t scam ( misleading or accidental trades count too )
- don’t share accounts or sell gold
- don’t use macros or cheats or scripts.
- don’t curse or swear
- don’t fake transaction or apply for refund after buying plat
- don’t abuse plat offers
- don’t hack
- ( rare ) during windmore event, don’t keep creating new characters to get 3 free energy and try loot tavern. Exploits like this will get u banned.


Misconceptions about banning:

- you won’t get banned for having multiple accounts
- you won’t get banned for transferring gold to those twink accounts/chars ( as long as you aren’t selling those accounts with gold ) like use as gold storage
- playing in different accounts at the same time (e.g running Arena )
-

[Susanne]

Some of the words that are used in-game by NPCs and mobs are slightly offensive here in the u.k. For instance..sod off and arse. We Brits had a good laugh at the npc who was taking unwanted eggs and I'm not going to say what another word is here. So what is acceptable in some places is not acceptable in others. Also..the accent used by the pirates, which is still used in some parts of South West England has been mispelt a few times. Going back to the topic of this thread, I agree that some of the reasons for being banned should be made clearer. I still have no idea what plat farming is...I don't use the offers but someone said it's something to do with that and also I'm confused about people having different accounts. If I'm still in the dark after all these years then I imagine some new players don't have a clue.