Well said, earlier when drae knew only 2 guilds had a chance he acted like any guild could win, then it suddenly became unfair when he realized that he was outnumbered, in my opinion theres nothing wrong with joining a new guild for an event because in the long run only 2 had a chance to begin with thats why everyone merged.Originally Posted by SuperGotenks
Almost everyone complaining about how PC will win has a toon in PC. If, instead of complaining, you all came together and formed your own guild to rival these massive guilds, it would be different. The size of said top guilds gave them the advantage, not the win. You gave them the win.
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Actually any of the guilds could have won before anyone even joined PC. Its based on member activity, not on size. This is open to all levels and not just 105, but its okay muzzling. Everyone can keep taking shots at drae/reborn. We didnt open our doors for a reason for this event.
Go get your guild active and win then.
Supergotenks
~Proud member of Unity
Lol literally took those words out of context to fit that narrative. Gg. As the first sentence states. "Any of the guilds could have won BEFORE anyone joined PC" This was implying that i was talking BEFORE everyone started joining PC and completely defeating the purpose of a guild vs guild competition.
Thanks StS for the gold farming opportunity! This will definitely allow the event to reach out to a larger percentage of the games population.
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I fixed your post for you.
Supergotenks
~Proud member of Unity
Everyone merged because the game designers failed to put in place counter measures that would have forced this to be a real guild VS guild competition. If they had not intended for this to be a competitive tournament they would not have put up a guild leaderboard to track guild vs guild progress. There is no competition. The concept of this event has been broken. Fault lies both with the studio for not ensuring this was truly fair for all guilds and with the players who have fully exploited this event. Shame on both.
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Lol any guild could have won. Not just reborn. Reborn wanted to actually have a copetition with ALL guilds. It was something actually fun to look forward to. Thats ruined when everyone joined PC. Everyone keeps saying reborn is salty that we wont win. Very far from the truth. As the intetions of the even were to be a guild vs guild COMPETITION, not a 1 vs EVERYONE else. Everyone in reborn looked forward to having to battle it out vs ANY of the other guilds that planned on participating heavily in the event PRIOR to the EXPLOITATION.
The fact that this thread for an INTENDED guild vs guild COMPETITION has turned into taking shots at reborn for stating the obvious EXPLOITATION AFTER everyone started joining PC is funny. Saying we are salty that we arent gonna win. The first people to make posts on this thread about it being even, were those that didnt intend ALL of the noobs that either play for a bit, then become inactive guilds, or the people that just enjoy hating on others guilds just because its "fun", to join 1 guild to ruin the WHOLE basis of COMPETITION.
Several people from OG guilds only joined pc because they were either refused entry into Reborn, or because they otherwise wouldnt have otherwise had a chance at the new white dragon set. Once again this defeats the WHOLE purpose of COMPETITION. Thats like putting ALL but a handful of players on 1 football team, and expecting the outcome to be "FAIR". There is competition in sports, and measures to ENSURE even competition for EVERYONE.
You just contradicted yourself in the same post.
Supergotenks
~Proud member of Unity
Doing exactly what everyone else has been doing. Picking 1 line and saying that im contradicting and/or wrong.
Once again. You must not have seen the word "could". If im not mistaken, "could" is past tense? Meaning this was BEFORE EXPLOITATION.
One flaw in everyones states about reborn having a chance to win BEFORE EXPLOITATION, was the fact that most of reborns caps are from the plat purchasers in the guild. Our top 5 officers have 20+ caps each. Officers alts and others alts are what makeup the majority of Reborns 300 or so members. All hand picked by officers/GM because of past friendships. This avoids all the spys and all the noobs that continue to seek to destroy and hate on the guild, exactly the problem tron had with accepting nearly anyone.
Youre also reading into my statement when i said "several people from OG guilds are joining PC because they were refused entry into Reborn, or because they otherwise wouldnt have had a chance at the new white dragon set". Restoration and apex are examples of this. The majority of restoration are plat purchasers. Though they are picky on who they let into their guild. The guild only really dies when Dolloway takes a break from PL. They had a chance at winning BEFORE EXPLOITATION. Plat purchases would have let them kill faster with psyko/thrasher/pure stats and they all would have had their own solo games.
Apex is mainly a pvp guild and barely does any farming anymore. Since 76 cap i have barely seen apex farm constantly for new gear or just to make gold. They mainly just get geared up for pvp. The guild takes a down turn when Cold decides to disappear just the same way Dolloway does from restoration.
Now im not assuming they are bored of the game or just hate the game because of lack of updates, but this is one reason why their guilds die and arent active like they USED to be. This does not mean that their guilds dont become active AGAIN when there is a new update because i know for a fact restorations pops up everywhere when new caps/events happen.
With this new update that introduced, AT LAST, the new White dragon vanity set. This created a ton of activity in inactive guilds such as apex and restoration. With that activity, ANY guild COULD have won BEFORE EXPLOITATION of the guild vs guild INTENDED competition.
What other guilds stood a chance in this event other than pc and reborn? The leaderboards before this event went pc 178, reborn 166, infinitum 38, restoration 25 look at the HUGE disadvantages of the other guilds it would have been a 2 guild event and quit saying it wouldnt have been. The other guilds chose to merge with pc not because they were refused entry into reborn. But because pc is a much friendlier place and we want them to beat reborn. Who would want to see MINE AGK win this event? Nobody is the answer
Uninformed? Scroll up and read Cinco's post again... this is basic economics like i was trying to explain before... just like i was trying to explain before, guilds would be excluded from the event and you disagreed with that until you realized your guild would be excluded too lol
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The absence of counter measures and better game mechanics ensuring it's a far and balanced event for all guilds, which appears to be the situation today, will result in no challenge and no competition, hence the exploitation resulting in a one guild event. This really should be an event open to all players, the guild element should be entirely removed because it's broken. However, that apparently is not going to happen.
"One flaw in everyones states about reborn having a chance to win BEFORE EXPLOITATION, was the fact that most of reborns caps are from the plat purchasers in the guild. Our top 5 officers have 20+ caps each. Officers alts and others alts are what makeup the majority of Reborns 300 or so members. All hand picked by officers/GM because of past friendships. This avoids all the spys and all the noobs that continue to seek to destroy and hate on the guild, exactly the problem tron had with accepting nearly anyone."
Did you literally miss that in my whole post? 60-70% of our caps are from our plat purchasers alone. 5 people cant play that many 80+ caps at once. Stop trying to continue to say that "reborn has (number of caps) and has a better advantage over everyone else." Several of our other members have 3-5 caps and some have a few more. We have a total of 282 members, the majority are alts. Id estimate our total amount of people that would have had a chance to participate in this event is around 20-30 people max. Maybe even less from our guild. Thats not even a huge advantage that everyone is assuming we have over anyone on the LB lower then us.
Lol you say that you want to see PC win and not reborn? This is exactly what this event does. Its divisive, its not bringing the community together. Its making a certain group of people hate another group of people and more less make one group of people think their better. Exactly why people started suggesting the top 25 in each guild should have access to this vendor BEFORE EXPLOITATION.
Drae you were very excited about this event at first lol all about guild vs guild but then you saw how big PC got and backed out like chill out you want a top 50 competition now because you know you wont be able to win anymore when everyone merged into PC and because you decided to close recruitment into your guild. You had every chance to make your guild grow like PC but you chose to close recruitment for your guild so it sounds more like a personal problem. You only want top 50 or something like that because you got the most free time in the world then anyone in the game so your guaranteed to win just like PC is because you didn't recruit more members even from the first announcement of this event.
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Let me guess that you're for Reborn guild. Any guild has a chance to win. Guild numbers do not matter much because a player can have 3 or more chars in the guild. What matter is the number of active players that will actually farm. 10 active players in a guild can beat 100 player easily. 100 is a number that doesn't actually represent the total number of players.
Can we talk about the drop rates on the dragon sets and items? how many items and dragon sets can I purchase with gold. Is there a limit? Those are the questions we should be asking.
Not sure if stat guns l100 are any good @ l105.
Indeed uninformed. It's not a coincidence that Cinco added a gold event after consideration of what has been said here in regards to a balance between gold sinks and access to new currency entering the game.
As far as the guild event, I believe that has been sufficiently debated and points have been made to show that the event has ended up flawed and that there is in the end, no element of a guild VS guild competition whatsoever, due to a lack of metrics to ensure that it would be a fair and balanced event for all guilds in the game. It's also noteworthy that you and everyone who is benefiting from the exploitation of this event were originally against it, but now you're all very happy with taking advantage of weaknesses in the design of what was supposed to be a guild VS guild event. Had this been done correctly, every guild would have a fair chance and this would truly be a guild VS guild competition. That is what my expectations were to begin with. That however, is clearly not the case.
Easily solve the problem by making this an event open to all players. Change the guild event into a player based competition, something you and your allies suggested very early on. It's a great idea. I'm for it. It's not too late for this to happen.
Literally everyone who posted saying anyone guild COULD win, said it BEFORE EXPLOITATION of the event. We are calling it what it is, EXPLOITATION.
When we first made reborn. We had already made up our mind to make it a close guild and pick and choose who we let in because of spies and people just trying to destroy it like tron.
Read what i already said about our members being the majority of alts and most of our caps being from our main 5 officers. Not to mention the rest of our members have 3-5 and some a bit more. A few people have 1.
Exactly why you left family to join PC Tony. Your guild is dead since joepally rage quit PL during 100 cap. 85-95% of the people who have joined pc, will go back to their own guilds after they get what they want.
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