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    Default Overpowered Weapons & Powers Combo! - Dark Legends

    Today I'm here to talk about the Combo that occurs when players press spam the weapons attack button in PvP.

    Obviously, that Combo isn't new. It existed for many years and it received the most attention in PvP alone since It's a competitive advantage, unlike PvE. That Combo I'm talking about usually had alot lower chance to occur while spamming the weapons attack button, which used to make PvP most likely skill-based aka depending on the moves you do and timing of the powers usage etc etc. Now the modern PvP is all about getting in the arena and spamming the weapons over and over until that Combo turns out and the one who landed it gets the kill easily especially if they don't have the specific powers to counter it charged (Unholy Blessing). The Combo is really strong and lethal, by landing only one on someone who has full health, it will simply take off more than 60% of the health atleast and if it was with (Unholy Blessing) activated, it will get rid of the entire 100% health. Now with that being said, I feel like it should either have a less chance to turn out just like it used to be for many years in PvP or removed entirely just from PvP if that's what it takes. But I'd definitely prefer it to only have a less chance of working instead of disabling it for PvP.
    Not to mention, I'm not talking about it from a personal view, it's something that many PvP players dislike and see unfair, since it's about getting lucky in landing that Combo which makes playing ''Smart'' Not important at all.

    There is another issue I need to also mention.
    The Fatal burst and Brimstone powers Combo! As many of you know, Charging the power Fatal burst and releasing, then charging the power Brimstone and releasing, gives you a chance to land a Combo which makes the Enemy ''burn'' in both PvP & PvE.
    Unfortunately, nowadays PvP is literally 99% of players using that same build and same powers that include Fatal burst and Brimstone to use that Combo, it's basically everything PvP is about and it's very tragic, compared to how PvP used to be.
    PvP used to be about being creative in creating builds, ranking powers and passives of your creativity, simply being able to count on other powers that exist beside Fatal burst and Brimstone powers. All the new recent updates made PvP alot different and I mean it, it basically killed the usage of other powers that used to be seen in PvP because of how weak they all became against Fatal burst and Brimstone combo.
    Before there would be alot more powers seen in the PvP field, I'm talking about Vermin Swarm, Leap, Ghost Strike, Shadow Dance, Curse..Etc. What happend to all those powers? Why are they all useless in PvP now and no one ever uses them ? Why some of them like Vermin Swarm does 0 damage against players using the healing items and forges ? I have the answer, it is because those powers weren't buffed enough as they should have, along with the new Forge system and other new items, and there is a one build of powers which includes the Fatal Burst and Brimstone Combo, that simply can take over and beat any type of those powers above now as it became really strong with the new updates and that's understandable because it does what is so called ''Combo''. So I think it would be alot more fair to buff the powers that don't cause ''Combo'' since they all just stayed the same and no way any of them have a chance against someone who knows how to use the Fatal burst and Brimstone Combo. As a big fan of the old PvP system, I'd love to see a few changes that would bring other powers to life in PvP. It's really boring to use, see and fight the Same Exact Thing everyday the whole time, it's been like that for so long already and it's honestly not enjoyable as much as before.

    From my point of view, there is 2 options that could really help to change that for now.

    1) Nerf the Fatal Burst and Brimstone Combo in some way. By nerfing I don't only mean ''reduce the damage'' of it, nerfing could be in like changing some things with the cooldown, timing, etc.The most simple nerf that it would get, is to atleast not make it possible to land the burning Combo by brimstone after 4-5 Seconds of using the Fatal burst, I've seen it happen alot. Basically someone charges and uses Fatal burst, after 4-5 seconds of releasing, they still charge brimstone and land the burning Combo. It would make more sense if you have to Rush to charge brimstone and release after using Fatal burst to land that Combo instead of having a chance of taking ur time on landing brim. Like after using Fatal burst, you have 2-3 seconds to charge brimstone and land the Combo and if you wait longer it simply doesn't have a chance to apply the burning Combo.

    2) Buff the powers that don't create a ''Specific Combo'' and give Passives which aren't powers, abit more attention since using low amount of points on passives almost doesn't matter against a higher amount of points on the passives because the stats are mostly now created and matter from Forging.

    These are just examples and suggestions I needed to get off my chest since I really love this game and I would hate to not have fun on it anymore. In the end, I'm sure the developers know what's the best for the game and everyone and will consider the right decisions to make the game even more great than it already is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purifysoul View Post
    Today I'm here to talk about the Combo that occurs when players press spam the weapons attack button in PvP.

    Obviously, that Combo isn't new. It existed for many years and it received the most attention in PvP alone since It's a competitive advantage, unlike PvE. That Combo I'm talking about usually had alot lower chance to occur while spamming the weapons attack button, which used to make PvP most likely skill-based aka depending on the moves you do and timing of the powers usage etc etc. Now the modern PvP is all about getting in the arena and spamming the weapons over and over until that Combo turns out and the one who landed it gets the kill easily especially if they don't have the specific powers to counter it charged (Unholy Blessing). The Combo is really strong and lethal, by landing only one on someone who has full health, it will simply take off more than 60% of the health atleast and if it was with (Unholy Blessing) activated, it will get rid of the entire 100% health. Now with that being said, I feel like it should either have a less chance to turn out just like it used to be for many years in PvP or removed entirely just from PvP if that's what it takes. But I'd definitely prefer it to only have a less chance of working instead of disabling it for PvP.
    Not to mention, I'm not talking about it from a personal view, it's something that many PvP players dislike and see unfair, since it's about getting lucky in landing that Combo which makes playing ''Smart'' Not important at all.

    There is another issue I need to also mention.
    The Fatal burst and Brimstone powers Combo! As many of you know, Charging the power Fatal burst and releasing, then charging the power Brimstone and releasing, gives you a chance to land a Combo which makes the Enemy ''burn'' in both PvP & PvE.
    Unfortunately, nowadays PvP is literally 99% of players using that same build and same powers that include Fatal burst and Brimstone to use that Combo, it's basically everything PvP is about and it's very tragic, compared to how PvP used to be.
    PvP used to be about being creative in creating builds, ranking powers and passives of your creativity, simply being able to count on other powers that exist beside Fatal burst and Brimstone powers. All the new recent updates made PvP alot different and I mean it, it basically killed the usage of other powers that used to be seen in PvP because of how weak they all became against Fatal burst and Brimstone combo.
    Before there would be alot more powers seen in the PvP field, I'm talking about Vermin Swarm, Leap, Ghost Strike, Shadow Dance, Curse..Etc. What happend to all those powers? Why are they all useless in PvP now and no one ever uses them ? Why some of them like Vermin Swarm does 0 damage against players using the healing items and forges ? I have the answer, it is because those powers weren't buffed enough as they should have, along with the new Forge system and other new items, and there is a one build of powers which includes the Fatal Burst and Brimstone Combo, that simply can take over and beat any type of those powers above now as it became really strong with the new updates and that's understandable because it does what is so called ''Combo''. So I think it would be alot more fair to buff the powers that don't cause ''Combo'' since they all just stayed the same and no way any of them have a chance against someone who knows how to use the Fatal burst and Brimstone Combo. As a big fan of the old PvP system, I'd love to see a few changes that would bring other powers to life in PvP. It's really boring to use, see and fight the Same Exact Thing everyday the whole time, it's been like that for so long already and it's honestly not enjoyable as much as before.

    From my point of view, there is 2 options that could really help to change that for now.

    1) Nerf the Fatal Burst and Brimstone Combo in some way. By nerfing I don't only mean ''reduce the damage'' of it, nerfing could be in like changing some things with the cooldown, timing, etc.The most simple nerf that it would get, is to atleast not make it possible to land the burning Combo by brimstone after 4-5 Seconds of using the Fatal burst, I've seen it happen alot. Basically someone charges and uses Fatal burst, after 4-5 seconds of releasing, they still charge brimstone and land the burning Combo. It would make more sense if you have to Rush to charge brimstone and release after using Fatal burst to land that Combo instead of having a chance of taking ur time on landing brim. Like after using Fatal burst, you have 2-3 seconds to charge brimstone and land the Combo and if you wait longer it simply doesn't have a chance to apply the burning Combo.

    2) Buff the powers that don't create a ''Specific Combo'' and give Passives which aren't powers, abit more attention since using low amount of points on passives almost doesn't matter against a higher amount of points on the passives because the stats are mostly now created and matter from Forging.

    These are just examples and suggestions I needed to get off my chest since I really love this game and I would hate to not have fun on it anymore. In the end, I'm sure the developers know what's the best for the game and everyone and will consider the right decisions to make the game even more great than it already is.

    Thank you to everyone who took their time to read this and thank you to the developers that are really hard working. Have a blessed day/night Y'all!
    I agree with the 2nd point.
    The start of the post is like bring back dodge ,combo hits bcoz of less dodge and high dmg forge makes it too powerful, when dodge was on everyone wants to remove it and bringing back of dodge will be like waste 4 to 5 minutes for one vs hehe.
    But 2nd point is correct.

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    Totally agree with this


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    Quote Originally Posted by tusharreings View Post
    I agree with the 2nd point.
    The start of the post is like bring back dodge ,combo hits bcoz of less dodge and high dmg forge makes it too powerful, when dodge was on everyone wants to remove it and bringing back of dodge will be like waste 4 to 5 minutes for one vs hehe.
    But 2nd point is correct.

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    Well I'm sure they could nerf the weapons attack Combo without changing anything in the dodge rate, dodge rate stays the same but just change some things in the Combo alone.
    It's not fun to just spam weapons and win fights with barely using any powers, it's both not fun and unfair. It is so *OP* that reacting slow to it will eat up all of the health you have very fast, in the old PvP system there was no forge and no strong gems with special stats except the form gem that had some dodge in it and the weapons combo didn't turn out 70% of the time like right now. So I believe lowering the rate of the weapons combo can be easily done.
    PvP is about playing smart, that's how it would be called competitive. The fun in PvP is to stand out and be skilled, If it's gonna be about counting on spamming weapons attack and landing combos, it is not competitive at all. It's basically like playing casino games and hoping to win.
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    I agree with the first point on the weapons combo ..I have been an unfortunate victim of this because 90% of the time weapons combo hits me and before I can bless I'm already dead which isn't really fair tbh..I also agree with diversity of builds because I can remember clearly that back in 2015 during level 36 cap I met different players with different builds and that made playing each person a special experience but fast forward to now all we see is hybrids and a few nukers ..I hope cinco sees this thread and does something about pvp

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    I agree with this pvp has really gotten to be unfair due to this weapon combo attack. It is a nuisance u cant even do anything without someone smacking u with a weapon and yikes ur dead from just that. Few years back it was alot more fair to play. I've gotten where I have about quit playing due to this. I'm not a"pro" player but I used to like to play alot til the recent updates. Plus all u find now a days is the same ppl just looking for weak players to farm. No offense to the better players that actually play the game and not farm others the last comment isn't meant for u guys just the ones that constantly hunt for weaker players. How about this just take all combos out of pvp. Would be fair for everyone. Then u can actually see who is better then who 😁

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    Lmao... combos are great!! Perhaps all of you stick to one build...let me guess brim.......perhaps try switching up powes passives it is great. Have some fun try respectin once in a blue. Don't cry about it learn to adapt to it. Good day !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearnoevil View Post
    Lmao... combos are great!! Perhaps all of you stick to one build...let me guess brim.......perhaps try switching up powes passives it is great. Have some fun try respectin once in a blue. Don't cry about it learn to adapt to it. Good day !!
    I like this idea bro xD



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearnoevil View Post
    Lmao... combos are great!! Perhaps all of you stick to one build...let me guess brim.......perhaps try switching up powes passives it is great. Have some fun try respectin once in a blue. Don't cry about it learn to adapt to it. Good day !!
    Powers and passive obviously got nothing to do with the topic nor the Combo I'm talking about, as I said that weapons Combo is luck based and it deletes the fact that PvP is competitive, it can't be called competitive if it's luck based. Might as well read what I've mentioned again since you clearly missed the point.
    Not to mention, the passive are completely useless now since the forge adds ALOT more stats, using 0060 passive feels just like replacing those zeros with higher ranks, they almost do not make a difference.
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    Nah couldn't get that far of reading that..got bored, but im saying sure combos are luck but also depends on the forge you have on gems,weapon . Everyone has the same advantage on combos. You remind me of those pvpers who when they win they don't complain. But if lose (lag,lucky combo). It's like me saying (hey cinco i think all pc players should be banned from dl because there reaction time is faster) or complaing on vs i lost cuz you are pc player lol. Man just enjoy the combos! Maybe next level gap they make ultra combo 1hit boom dead. Lol Tc!

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    Dodge either needs to be completely removed or fatal burst has to start missing like every other skill.
    Also please make buff vermin swarm and high level fatal burst. It has been nerfed to the point you can't effectively use it anymore
    Curse also needs to be buffed. It should do % armor and damage reduction. Instead of -16 armor and -32 damage at curse level 5, it would be better if it removed 50% armor and 25% damage. The stats are so inflated right now it's kinda useless.
    Ghost strike also needs to be buffed. For example, instead of the useless speed boost you can't even notice from it, it can give enemies - 25% armor. That way it has a use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purifysoul View Post
    Powers and passive obviously got nothing to do with the topic nor the Combo I'm talking about, as I said that weapons Combo is luck based and it deletes the fact that PvP is competitive, it can't be called competitive if it's luck based. Might as well read what I've mentioned again since you clearly missed the point.
    Not to mention, the passive are completely useless now since the forge adds ALOT more stats, using 0060 passive feels just like replacing those zeros with higher ranks, they almost do not make a difference.
    I disagree with you on passives ..what you would say is that they don't have a major bearing like they used to but not that they aren't important

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    Amen to all of this, especially coming from someone who refused to use brim ever and likes using alternate builds in pvp! 🙏🏻

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