SL End Game PvP Tourney

**Reggin** · 12-08-2011, 12:53 AM

Silent... I beat mynista... Not gonna root a phone I use for work... But he quit after a 3-0 start. Waiting on round two opponent...

**THE Tesla** · 12-08-2011, 07:58 AM

Hey i posted this under competition, but i dont think it was really read, but this is my stand on the tournament...I am not jumping to conclusions as to why there is a rule change, I won't even reference what the rule change is, its irrelevant. But the fact that one is being made after the tournament has already started is a slippery slope. What will the next rule change be? Double elimination? Barefists? Pet fight? Come on, stick to the rules YOU made at the beginning of this, because no offense but this tournament is looking not very well thought out.

**FluffNStuff** · 12-08-2011, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by THE Tesla

Hey i posted this under competition, but i dont think it was really read, but this is my stand on the tournament...I am not jumping to conclusions as to why there is a rule change, I won't even reference what the rule change is, its irrelevant. But the fact that one is being made after the tournament has already started is a slippery slope. What will the next rule change be? Double elimination? Barefists? Pet fight? Come on, stick to the rules YOU made at the beginning of this, because no offense but this tournament is looking not very well thought out.

I understand where you are coming from, and in general adding rules to a tournament are a bad idea, but this is more of actually stating an unwritten rule. While the rules do not explicitly prohibit having guild members join the match and start healing you, if that actually happened, I am sure they would add a rule for it.

**THE Tesla** · 12-08-2011, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by FluffNStuff

I understand where you are coming from, and in general adding rules to a tournament are a bad idea, but this is more of actually stating an unwritten rule. While the rules do not explicitly prohibit having guild members join the match and start healing you, if that actually happened, I am sure they would add a rule for it.

If that were to happen, it should be disqualification for 2v1. This rule change is directed at a person's strategy in a fight. Which I believe this forces every player to play in the same style, resulting in copycat kill methods. IMO, that would NOT be fun. What makes mmos so fun to play, for me, is that I know that whoever I face as a unique individual with a unique thinking pattern and will hopefully deliver a unique fight experience. So again, I say let people fight how they want to fight and just be prepared for anything.

**FluffNStuff** · 12-08-2011, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by THE Tesla

If that were to happen, it should be disqualification for 2v1. This rule change is directed at a person's strategy in a fight. Which I believe this forces every player to play in the same style, resulting in copycat kill methods. IMO, that would NOT be fun. What makes mmos so fun to play, for me, is that I know that whoever I face as a unique individual with a unique thinking pattern and will hopefully deliver a unique fight experience. So again, I say let people fight how they want to fight and just be prepared for anything.

I honestly can't say that I personally disagree with you. I would be curious to see what this actually looks like in a match.

**THE Tesla** · 12-08-2011, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by FluffNStuff

I honestly can't say that I personally disagree with you. I would be curious to see what this actually looks like in a match.

The Defense rests.

**FluffNStuff** · 12-08-2011, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by THE Tesla

The Defense rests.

I have not seen this yet in the match, so my testimony is purely hearsay, not the mention that I am quite unreliable.

**FluffNStuff** · 12-08-2011, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Silentarrow

Current Match Results

Pending seems to be kicking some Arse. I hope I don't have to face him or her next!

**Silentarrow** · 12-08-2011, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Reggin

Silent... I beat mynista... Not gonna root a phone I use for work... But he quit after a 3-0 start. Waiting on round two opponent...

Please PM me next time

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**Silentarrow** · 12-08-2011, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by FluffNStuff

Silent, is there a way to see the whole bracket, like the NCAA tourney, or can you just see it?

No sorry! I Spent about three hours trying to make one on the forums so I just gave up!

**Reggin** · 12-08-2011, 05:41 PM

I did bro lol...

Originally Posted by Silentarrow:506266

Originally Posted by Reggin

Silent... I beat mynista... Not gonna root a phone I use for work... But he quit after a 3-0 start. Waiting on round two opponent...

Please PM me next time

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**Aculeas** · 12-08-2011, 05:43 PM

To what end is the new pvp player map going to effect this tourney? Do all 1 vs 1 have to take place there to?

**Deshx** · 12-08-2011, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Daarkshadowzz

I MEAN cammon, how much more do u want to nerf all other classes lets not forget that Comandos also have 1 more heal regen.

+1

Originally Posted by Samhayne

I think the new map that Thade is making will help to address kiting issues for 1v1. For this tournament, it's your show. You guys can do what you feel is best for everyone and the tournament. Me personally, I feel that excessive kiting and abuse of geometry is just that, an abuse. I just means that to be competitive, everyone will need to do this and then turn things into "who can kite the best." Which, to some extent pvp is about who can kite the best, but there is a line there somewhere where on one side it's cool and on the other side it's an abuse.

+10

**Kanozaki** · 12-08-2011, 06:11 PM

I am personally FOR this new rule change as "pole hugging" can be abused.

For those against this think of it this way, a COM doing this would eliminate any way of an op standing a chance against one thus making it an uneven playing field.This does not mean you cant kite , by all means kiting is an important part of pvp especially for an engi and op.Kiting however does NOT mean hide.

**Zeus** · 12-08-2011, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Kanozaki

I am personally FOR this new rule change as "pole hugging" can be abused.

For those against this think of it this way, a COM doing this would eliminate any way of an op standing a chance against one thus making it an uneven playing field.This does not mean you cant kite , by all means kiting is an important part of pvp especially for an engi and op.Kiting however does NOT mean hide.

This. If I made a video of what we were talking about, I'm pretty sure the majority would be appalled and request for a rule change immediately.

**Kanozaki** · 12-08-2011, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Apollo

This. If I made a video of what we were talking about, I'm pretty sure the majority would be appalled and request for a rule change immediately.

exactly.

**Silentarrow** · 12-08-2011, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Aculeas

To what end is the new pvp player map going to effect this tourney? Do all 1 vs 1 have to take place there to?

Competitors will have to settle on the map themselves, if there is a dispute they can PM me and I will flip a coin, Heads-Large room Tails 1v1 room.

**Cero** · 12-08-2011, 07:39 PM

the new map has only a max point of 5kills.

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wish that we can still use the 1st map. my guild wants to speculate:P

**Zeus** · 12-08-2011, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Silentarrow

Competitors will have to settle on the map themselves, if there is a dispute they can PM me and I will flip a coin, Heads-Large room Tails 1v1 room.

If we do the 1v1 room, we will need to fight twice in order to add it up to 10.

**Daarkshadowzz** · 12-08-2011, 07:57 PM

Maybe its a good idea to play 5 kills in each map? TBH i think thats the fairest thing that can be done. 5 games in pure dps. and 5 games in hit and run. It should make players think outside the box and change their tactics. So lets assume a weak player does Poll hugg in first map, and lets even assume he somehow manages to get a maximum of 5 kills. In a straight fight Dps he will most likely lose. So to me the only difference that will seperate the two is who makes the mistake first.

The pole hugger or the DPSer.

Silent i would on behalf of the defence ask that 5 games be played in each arena. It is the fairest everyone can hope for. ( Unless both players agree to play in the same map)